RE: Flushing DLLs follow-up

From: DE VILLIERS IAN (ian.devilliers@bmw.co.za)
Date: 10/24/01


Message-ID: <4A8E2E6FBFC0D511B0590008C7336EA00E3D75@zaexc8.w9>
From: DE VILLIERS IAN <ian.devilliers@bmw.co.za>
To: "'fh@rcs.urz.tu-dresden.de'" <fh@rcs.urz.tu-dresden.de>
Subject: RE: Flushing DLLs follow-up
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 08:21:23 +0200

Frank,

> Starting with NT 5.0 (= W2K), there is the *very* helpful hibernation
> option. It will just copy the entire RAM onto a file at the HD :-))

Although NT 4.0 doesn't give a hibernation function, on previous occasions
when I have needed to check the > physical RAM on NT 4.0,

I used a reasonably effective although probably unorthodox way of dumping
the memory to disk - check that your crash recovery options dump the
complete RAM to disk and cause a blue screen.

Although this is a good way to get the RAM contents to disk when you are
interested in specific programs in memory, I suppose doing something similar
for forensic investigations is not an option, but I wouldnt know much about
that...

Regards,

Ian de Villiers

-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Heyne [mailto:fh@rcs.urz.tu-dresden.de]
Sent: 23 October 2001 19:04
To: forensics@securityfocus.com; focus-ms@securityfocus.com;
keydet89@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Flushing DLLs follow-up

On 23 Oct 2001, at 6:18, H C wrote:

> conducting 'live' forensics investigations on NT/2K (and
> ultimately XP).

I would say you first need to separate systems which are prepared for
this kind of investigation and systems which are not ;-)

Starting with NT 5.0 (= W2K), there is the *very* helpful hibernation
option. It will just copy the entire RAM onto a file at the HD :-))

I am not sure at the moment, but I think even when this option is not
enabled, you can enable it without rebooting and save the current state
to disk.

With NT 3.x and NT 4, there is no such option.

Frank Heyne



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