Re: Live Upgrade for Linux

From: Seth Arnold (sarnold@wirex.com)
Date: 04/02/03

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    Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 18:02:29 -0800
    From: Seth Arnold <sarnold@wirex.com>
    To: focus-linux@securityfocus.com
    
    
    

    On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 04:32:11PM -0600, Daniel Wittenberg wrote:
    > But apt-get (or apt-rpm) works great with RPM. There are things I like
    > about rpm and about apt, so with apt-rpm you get the best of both
    > worlds.

    Well, no, that's not entirely true.

    apt's strength is handling package dependency trees. It is very good at
    it. It is also very fast at it.

    rpm's strength is making obvious which patches have been added by the
    vendor. rpm also supports file-level dependencies.

    The file-level dependencies are painful in apt-rpm. I've not used
    Conectiva; maybe they removed file-level dependencies in their rpms,
    maybe they worked around it, I'm not sure.

    When I did use apt and rpm, the result was less than pleasing; apt would
    calculate the proper order to apply updated rpms, and then would hand
    the work off to rpm, which would duplicate much of the work. apt and
    dpkg is quick. rpm is slow. apt and rpm is very slow.

    I haven't had a chance to try out up2date yet, but I'm expecting it
    meshes with rpm better. It has to. :)

    What is truly frustrating is to see two package formats, both with
    problems that the other package format has solved.

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