Re: Proventia G400

From: Planz (planz2009_at_gmail.com)
Date: 10/28/05

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    To: FinAckSyn <finacksyn@yahoo.co.uk>
    
    

    I also did some extensive evaluation of various IPS sometimes ago.I
    remember that the same points were told to me by one of the competitors
    of Proventia, but later I found most of them are mud slinging type
    facts. I recall from my experience that:

    #1: Proventia G400 has a standalone Local Management Interface. It
    doesn't require a SiteProtector to manage and is optional.
    #2: The by-pass feature which is passing the traffic fail-open in case
    of IPS appliance failure, is built-in for Copper interfaces. For fibre
    interfaces, it is external. FYI, some IPS vendors do not have this
    feature at all.
    #3: It is not purely signature reliant.

    Regarding NSS reports, only the vendor can explain.

    FinAckSyn wrote:

    >Hi Valter,
    >
    >We are currently evaluating IPS vendors in order to
    >make an informed choice about which is going to be
    >best for our customers (we are a security
    >consultancy/reseller).
    >
    >Unfortunately, ISS Proventia was one of the first to
    >drop off the list. It's one of those that fell into
    >our category of inline-IDS. Heavily signature
    >reliant, PC-based, doesn't run standalone (needs
    >external management), plus the requirement of an
    >external unit to enable resiliency in case of
    >Proventia hw/sw failure made the overall solution
    >quite bulky. Even more so for a single-box
    >deployment.
    >
    >Throughput of 400Mpbs seemed reasonable, but if you're
    >going to include Gb ports on a device, in our opinion,
    >that device should be able to handle a full Gb. It
    >didn't handle 400Mbps of small packets very well,
    >either, so you would need a separate DDOS device (ISS
    >don't supply these) if true enterprise perimeter or
    >hosting protection is required.
    >
    >SiteProtector software is excellent - one of the best.
    > But you need to see through this and work out whether
    >or not the device offers the protection you need,
    >rather than choose a product based on appearance. The
    >reports are also pretty nifty too.
    >If we had to choose a product based on policy
    >management and reporting, ISS would come pretty close
    >to the top of the list.
    >
    >Digging deeper, we also looked for independent test
    >results. We referred to www.nss.co.uk, whom offer the
    >most thorough tests on the market. No sign of ISS,
    >except in the old IPS Edition 1 test (non-current).
    >
    >We did hear on the grapevine that ISS (and Check
    >Point, for that matter), both submitted their products
    >for Edition 2 and 3 testing, but nothing came out of
    >the other end. We can only assume that they declined
    >to have their results published.
    >
    >Our thoughts? It's not really a true IPS. Next.
    >
    >Regards,
    >
    >Matt
    >
    >
    >--- Valter Santos <vsantola@sectoid.com> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
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