RE: location of an IPS

From: Bourque Daniel (Daniel.Bourque_at_loto-quebec.com)
Date: 10/21/05

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    To: "'kgeorgiades@toplayer.com'" <kgeorgiades@toplayer.com>, dfox168@hotmail.com, focus-ids@securityfocus.com
    Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 01:24:37 -0400
    
    

    What good can an IPS make in a DOS attack in front of your firewall??? If
    the link is saturated, it won't help even if it protect the fw...

    An IPS have to be place in the ISP premise and they will refuse to allow you
    to do that, or rent it themself.

    -----Original Message-----
    From: kgeorgiades@toplayer.com [mailto:kgeorgiades@toplayer.com]
    Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 10:32 PM
    To: dfox168@hotmail.com; focus-ids@securityfocus.com
    Subject: RE: location of an IPS

    Doug,

    If your IPS can provide DDoS protection in addition to the Malicious Content
    protection you should place the IPS in front of the Checkpoint FW in order
    to also protect the FW from the DDoS attacks.

    If your IPS can only provide Malicious Content protection, you should place
    it behind the FW.

    Note: I work for a company that is also selling IPS.

    Kyriacos (Ken) Georgiades
    Senior Director, Product Line Management Top Layer Networks, Inc
    Tel: 508 870 1300 x 231
    Cell: 508 783 5988
    Fax: 508 870 9797
    Email: kgeorgiades@toplayer.com
    www.toplayer.com

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Doug Fox [mailto:dfox168@hotmail.com]
    Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 4:58 PM
    To: focus-ids@securityfocus.com
    Subject: location of an IPS

    I'm sorry for this dumb question, which may have been answered many times.

    Where should one place an TippingPoint Unity 50 IPS device? Behind or in
    front of a firewall?

    I have a/the TippingPoint behind a Check Point firewall. Even though we
    externally and internally port-scanned the firewall and the IPS many times,
    the activity log did not contain any record of the "attacks".

    What am I missing here? Any pointers are appreciated.

    Thanks,

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