RE: on NIDS/NIPS tuning

From: Gary Halleen (ghalleen_at_cisco.com)
Date: 06/10/05

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    To: "'Drew Simonis'" <simonis@myself.com>, "'Anton A. Chuvakin'" <anton@chuvakin.org>, <focus-ids@securityfocus.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:17:03 -0700

    I'm seeing many organizations now tuning not on the IDS, but on the SIM
    product they're using for monitoring them.

    Gary
     

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Drew Simonis [mailto:simonis@myself.com]
    Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 6:02 AM
    To: Anton A. Chuvakin; focus-ids@securityfocus.com
    Subject: Re: on NIDS/NIPS tuning

    >
    > All,
    >
    > I was thinking about some issues with IDS alerts (their volume, etc)
    > and realized I could use some help from the list. It might also be a
    > fun discussion item.
    >
    > So, here it is: how many folks who buy/download a NIDS/NIPS actually
    > tune it? Long time ago when I was asking this question the previous
    > time, I was scared to learn that lots of people do not tune their
    > NIDSs. Is it any better now?
    >

    I know that, in my experience, many orgs don't tune at all. The fear is
    that they might do it wrong and thereby miss some important event. IMO,
    this is a stupid way of thinking, but I bet it isn't as rare as it should
    be.

    In other cases, people do not tune and rely on a correlation engine or MSS
    to filter the events. This is better, but really just moves the tuning to a
    different level.

    Personally, I tune sigs and also tailor the sig sets to the devices being
    monitored. For example, if there are no webservers on a segment, I might
    not be as inclined to use sigs that check for Apache exploits. I've never
    really measured the impact on the system vs. the administrative cost of
    doing this, however, so it is quite possible I am wasting time for a
    negligable benefit.

    On the tuning side, I believe that filters and exclusions should be part of
    the incident response lifecycle. If I am alerted to an event by an IDS, I
    investigate and discover that the event was benign or did not take place, a
    filter should result, and thus be properly documented.

    -Ds 

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