RE: Checkpoint SmartDefense

From: Ofer Shezaf (Ofer.Shezaf_at_breach.com)
Date: 05/20/05

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    > From: Fergus Brooks [mailto:fergwa@gmail.com]
    > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 2:10 PM
    >
    ....
    >
    > I am getting some mixed messages regarding this feature.
    >
    > 1) Does it detect zero day attacks in real time and
    > recommend/implement remediation

    As my expertise is web applications security, I can comment only on the
    web (port 80/443) functionality of SmartDefence (as well as
    WebIntelligence, its younger sibling). SmartDefence may provide better
    value for other protocols.

    Zero day attack detection is a tricky business. Behind the marketing
    brochures, SmartDefence and WebInteligence are mostly misuse based (i.e.
    signature based) and therefore are not well adjusted to zero day
    protection.

    I personally feel that the signatures are also on the weak side for
    attacks such as SQL injection or XSS, especially since tighter security
    (that is more signatures) is usually not practical, as discussed below.

    >
    > 2) How intelligent is it?
    >

    The one feature that seems to be more intelligent is detecting of binary
    code in input. It also seems like the one that has potential to detect
    zero day attacks for buffer overflows. I don't have personal experience
    with this one (always off). Any input is welcomed.

    > 3) Is it difficult to configure & maintain?
    >

    It is actually too easy to maintain. It has very "buzzword" centric
    configuration (block "XSS", block "SQL injection" - no finer
    configuration).

    As configuration being is on the rough side I think that in real world
    situation many of the protections have to be either off or on low
    (options are usually: off, low, medium and high). For example, medium
    security for SQL injection includes detecting words such as select or
    join - both impractical in real world.

    Lack of fine grained configuration is not limited to signatures, it is
    also true for applications - the security level for each category is
    determined on a site level, so if you have an free text field that is
    prone to include the word "select" you cannot exclude it but rather have
    to lower security for the entire site.

    > 4) Is this feature different on the Interspect and standard FW-1 boxes
    >
    >
    > Any comments and real world examples greatly appreciated!
    >
    > Thanks & regards.
    >

    Bottom line - if web security is your concern this is hardly the way to
    protect your site. It may be better for other protocols. I would go for
    mod_security, which provides much better configurability for a much
    lower price, or a full blown application firewall which provides much
    more security.

    ~ Ofer

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