RE: ISS Siteprotector as syslog server?

PPowenski_at_oag.com
Date: 11/23/04

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    Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 15:17:41 -0000
    To: <eric.hines@appliedwatch.com>, <shoten@starpower.net>, <RBowes@gov.mb.ca>, <focus-ids@securityfocus.com>
    
    

    As an ISS user I would like to confirm all that was said in this note.

    We are using ISS components.
    We purchased the 'firewall' third party module and had NO options after
    installation of our choices to pull data in from the firewall. We
    received a small set of smart defense alerts from checkpoint
    Secureplatform NG R55 and nothing more with no options either.

    If you read the sale*** it 'suggest' you can (more options are
    available if you use a CISCO PIX), but if you read the technical spec
    and the installation manual it is quite a different story at least for
    checkpoint.

    We were told for syslog events i.e. from snort we could get the
    third-party 'adapter' instead of or in addition to the module, but have
    not seen it for sale on the website of their products... Do not know if
    it is really for sale. An ISS tech rep. advised us on this software
    module.

    The best thing anyone can do in this market is READ ALL THE DOCUMENTS
    and READ IT VERY VERY CAREFULLY. If you can get the box or software
    in-house and verify as well....

    Cheers
    paul

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Eric Hines [mailto:eric.hines@appliedwatch.com]
    Sent: 22 November 2004 20:19
    To: 'Rob Shein'; 'Bowes, Ronald (EST)'; focus-ids@securityfocus.com
    Subject: RE: ISS Siteprotector as syslog server?

    Rob is correct. ISS has on numerous occasions got their foot in the door
    at previous organizations I worked at on RFP's where we were looking for
    a SIM solution. After they got their foot in, they admitted to only
    being a SIM for ISS branded products. Its really disgusting how some
    vendors out there are abusing that term. Security Information Management
    (SIM), Security Event Management (SEM) is defined as aggregating and
    correlating information from DIFFERENT vendors and solutions. ISS Site
    Protector is simply a tool that ISS created to manage and tie together
    all their own products -- which is something I'd expect ANY vendor to be
    able to do. Site Protector is similar to Cisco's VMS, which ties
    together all their Cisco security products, etc.

    So in summary, no, ISS Site Protector does not have the capability to
    import in data from other solutions. You will want to look at other
    solutions to do this. If this is simply for completing your evaluations,
    unfortunately, the only free solution I am aware of is OSSIM -- however,
    I've not personally looked at it.

    Hope this helps.

    Regards,
    Eric Hines, GCIA, CISSP
    CEO, President
    Applied Watch Technologies, Inc.
    Direct: (877) 262-7593 x327
    http://www.appliedwatch.com
    "Open Source Security Management"

     

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Rob Shein [mailto:shoten@starpower.net]
    Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 4:47 PM
    To: 'Bowes, Ronald (EST)'; focus-ids@securityfocus.com
    Subject: RE: ISS Siteprotector as syslog server?

    In my experience with SiteProtector, it doesn't seem to have had any
    facility for even managing the data. It's not a vendor-agnostic,
    glue-everything-together kind of SIM; it's designed to provide central
    management for multiple ISS products and allow you to correlate data
    that comes from them.

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Bowes, Ronald (EST) [mailto:RBowes@gov.mb.ca]
    > Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 10:09 AM
    > To: 'focus-ids@securityfocus.com'
    > Subject: ISS Siteprotector as syslog server?
    >
    >
    > We're trying to get several different systems (ips and ids) to work
    > together, as we're evaluating ips products made by various vendors.
    >
    > The ips appliances we're using can export their data to a syslog
    > server, and it would be nice if we could import the syslog data into
    > ISS SiteProtector. Has anybody tried to do that before?
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Ron Bowes
    >
    >
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