Re: Firewall vs. IPS

From: Richard Bejtlich (
Date: 08/21/04

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    It's funny this is being discussed now. Addison-Wesley [0] asked me
    to do a short article for an upcoming Dr. Dobb's Journal [1], so I
    cover this subject.

    I argue against "convergence" between products doing "detection" and
    those doing "protection." Too many people focus on detecting
    _attacks_ when really they should be detecting _failures in
    protection_ caused by poor access control, exposure of vulnerable
    targets, and misconfiguration.

    This means the IDS remains a network audit device doing detection, and
    all products which filter, scrub, manipulate, or otherwise stop
    traffic be accepted as access control devices (aka "firewalls") doing

    You can't have the same device do both functions. It's like a guard
    without a security camera thinking he's doing a good job when an
    intruder's already slipped behind him.

    If any convergence should take place, it should occur within the
    detection market (signature/anomaly/flow/etc. network/host-based IDS)
    and separately within the protection market (XML/spam/SQL/etc.



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