Re: [Snort-users] RE: Network Behaviour Anomoly Detection
From: pieter claassen (pieter_at_countersnipe.com)
Date: 06/26/04
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To: Martin Roesch <roesch@sourcefire.com> Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 14:02:43 +0100
As a first cut I can think of the following anomalous events that might
be interesting:
1. Changes in spread of connections from source/to destination to
services over a specific time period. (i.e. there are new requests which
makes your environment look differently from what it was)
2. Changes in volume from source/to destination going to services over a
specific time period. (i.e. resource abuse or successful compromise)
How would the logic be implemented? Can this be done through the
existing rule syntax?
sample rules:
alert tcp any any -> $WEBSERVERS any (msg:"Somebody is probing our
servers" ; anomaly:"ports > 20/min" )
- A match would indicate a quantitative increase in connections to more
than 20/min to a webserver
alert tcp any any -> $WEBSERVERS any (msg:"Sudden increase in
consumption"; anomaly:"volume > 20%/min" )
- A match would indicate a qualitative increase in volume of traffic
being requested from a service
alert tcp any any <> any any (msg:"Client is making a whole lot of new
connections and getting loads of data back"; anomaly:"volume_per_con >
20%/min AND ports > 20%/min" )
- A match would indicate that a client is originating new connections
and getting data back
Isn't the first option just the portscan preprocessor in a different
from?
Is there another way to "program" the preprocessor in this case?
Pieter
On Thu, 2004-06-24 at 20:25, Martin Roesch wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> > Anyone interested in starting up an opensource project to build
> > something
> > like this?
>
> FYI, Snort's stream4 module (and the new spp_flow) module is capable of
> logging the stats you mention for any flow that is observed,
> specifically start/stop time, src/dst IPs and ports, number of packets
> and number of bytes transferred, as well as IDS event stats and any
> other flags you care to hang off of them. For example, along with the
> flow record you could record the number of IDS events that fired for a
> given flow as well as any anomalies that were detected on that flow
> (e.g. fragmentation/tcp protocol anomalies, etc).
>
> Snort's got 50% of what you want already, you could implement the
> anomaly detection as a preprocessor if you were so inclined...
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