RE: Intrusion prevention and dDos protection

From: Frank Knobbe (frank_at_knobbe.us)
Date: 08/27/03

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    To: Rob Shein <shoten@starpower.net>
    Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 14:07:38 -0500
    
    
    

    On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 10:31, Rob Shein wrote:
    > I don't understand how the cloaking would work. It would seem to me that a
    > firewall that drops all inbound packets that are not part of an existing
    > connection is as invisible as a system that isn't online...

    The cloaking is nothing else but sending an SYN-ACK back instead of a
    silent drop. In other words, your TCP 3 way establishes a connection,
    but nothing else is happening (no tar-pitting etc). When you scan a box
    it should report that all ports are open. Now you are left to banner
    grab all ports to see what port is actually a real service and what port
    is not.

    The concept is been kicked around for year. Some company is marketing as
    their 'cloaking' architecture (probably an expensive product :). LaBrea
    is similar, but acts only on unused IP's and keeps the connection alive.
    A cloak works more on a port basis than IP basis.

    I was thinking of hacking ipfilter so that an option 'cloak' would be
    available, which does nothing else but doing the 3-way and move on. My
    plan was to copy the routine from block-rst and just change the RST to a
    SYN-ACK. Unfortunately I have found the time for it... :(

    Cheers,
    Frank

    
    



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