RE: Network IDS

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To: "'Duston Sickler'" <dustons@charter.net>, <focus-ids@securityfocus.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 12:04:04 +0800

Big brother is watching so I'll be careful.

I have had a fair amount of exposure to the Symantec Gateway Security
boxes and can offer a few comments.

The SGS is a combination of Raptor firewall (Symantec Enterprise
Firewall), gateway AV scanner and signature-based Network IDS with some
content filtering as well.

It runs on hardened Linux but is sold as an appliance - there is a VT100
terminal as part of the console and though you shouldn't have to access
that - however advanced troubleshooting may require access to the
operating system.

Unfortunately I have found the IDS to be fairly token. I believe there
are only around 1000 sigs and the updates are not that frequent. It is
certainly not in the league of Symantec's own enterprise NIDS Manhunt.
It really is a value add to the Raptor firewall, which is an excellent
application-layer firewall and also the Norton gateway AV is top notch.

I do think it is a great solution for smaller size businesses - it is
certainly very easy to manage and configure. I have heard there are some
enterprise-capable boxes on the way. They also ship with Rainwall
clustering/HA (at an extra cost of course!) so they can scale etc.

So in summary if you are *only looking for an IDS* then the SGS is not
for you. It is a good all-in-one solution. I don't know too much about
Windows IDS systems so I'll leave the recommendations to others on this
list.

Rgds...

-----Original Message-----
From: Duston Sickler [mailto:dustons@charter.net]
Sent: Saturday, 16 August 2003 11:48 PM
To: focus-ids@securityfocus.com
Subject: Network IDS

Hello,

I would like to thank in advance everyone who is out of the office. I
really do like to hear about it.

The Network Administrator for the company I work for has charged me to
locate a Network Intrusion Detection System. We do have a monitored
firewall between us and the outside world. We need something to protect
our servers from anyone coming from the inside. We have about 20
Windows 2000 Servers, 5 NT 4 Servers, and 250 Windows 2000/Thin Net
workstations.

We live in a 100% Windows world and the powers that be will not be
receptive to any *nix solutions. We are more the willing to pay for a
top of the line product as long is it is in fact top of the line.

Currently I have been looking at the Symantec Gateway Device. We like
the idea of a stand alone piece of hardware. The only problem is we
already have a gateway server washing our email of viruses and 99% of
Spam.

Does anyone have any comments on the Symantec Gateway device? We have
had excellent experiences with there Gateway software and NAV Corp.
Does anyone have a different or better device that they could point me
towards?

I would like to thank everyone who replies to this post. I have learned
a great deal being on this list the last year and will continue to
appreciate all the expertise that is freely given here.

Duston Sickler
CompTIA A+ Certified
"Cedo nulli."

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