RE: Gartner is Dead, nCircle, Fusion,asset-correlation--was-->False positives, negatives and don't cares

From: Evans, Arian (Arian.Evans_at_fishnetsecurity.com)
Date: 08/13/03

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    Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 19:40:03 -0500
To: "dcdave" <dcdave@att.net>

    dcdave,

    # Anyone else seen Silent Runner in this light?

    My two discussion issues (of which I only covered one) were:

    (a) correlate security events to vuln posture+asset value metrics.
    (b) deal with encrypted channels of communication.

    I don't see Silent Runner solving for either of those issues.

    Silent Runner is kind of an odd duck. I would comment more,
    but I just hit their site and looks like they've changed some things
    (at least marketing) since I last looked at it. I've got install CDs
    and now they are "appliance based". </zip>

    I think as I mentioned in a previous thread, that Securify, Lancope,
    Mazu, and Arbor have offerings of varying maturity on the policy
    and protocol police space. I see this space as a primary Silent
    Runner value, but I believe the first three vendors I mentioned do
    this in a superior fashion. (I don't know Arbor well enough to pass
    judgement on their solution.)

    nCircle and ISS have some SE to VP correlation *right now*.
    Sourcefire looks like they're right around the corner with it. I'm
    not aware that Silent Runner has anything that solves this need.

    Silent Runner suffers from the same issues dealing w/encrypted
    channels that any promiscuious network traffic collector suffers
    from. (If there's some new magic in Silent Runner I'm not aware
    of, somebody clue me hard.)

    Cheerios,

    Arian Evans
    Sr. Security Engineer
    FishNet Security

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