Re: Concerns with NFR

From: D G (d_g3377@yahoo.com)
Date: 06/22/02 

Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 16:20:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: D G <d_g3377@yahoo.com>
To: counter.spy@gmx.de, scure@redbulltech.com, focus-ids@securityfocus.com

Just speculating here, but interestingly enough, I
think your comment about all the acquisitions says
something about NFR's possible financials. They're
doing the acquiring, which generally means: they've
got money. Right?

btw, if you're dealing with NFR as a reseller, maybe
you can ask them directly why Marcus left, and let the
list know what they say! Or maybe they'll actually
chime in, and tell us themselves!

-dg

--- counter.spy@gmx.de wrote:
> Sam,
> the first question about the financial stuff I
> cannot answer (don't know).
>
> The question about Marcus Ranum I can answer:
> http://www.snort.org
> "Our fearless leader was on the cover of the most
> recent Information
> Security Magazine, taking part in a roundtable with
> some of the major players in the
> IDS land regarding the evolution of IDSs. Featured
> in the roundtable are
> Robert Gleichauf (CISCO), Chrs Klaus (ISS), Marcus
> Ranum (ex-NFR), and our
> Marty."
>
> http://www.infosecuritymag.com/2002/jun/cover.shtml
> "MARCUS J. RANUM (mjr@ranum.com) is founder of NFR
> Security and an
> independent security consultant. He built the first
> commercial network firewall
> product, DEC SEAL, in 1990. While at Trusted
> Information Systems, he built and
> managed the president's mail server, whitehouse.gov.
> He was inducted into the
> Information Systems Security Association's (ISSA)
> Hall of Fame in June 2001."
>
> Third, we already see a great consolidation in the
> IDS market.
> Symantec aquired Axent
> NFR aquired Centrax
> ISS aquired NetworICE
> Cisco...
>
> You should have a look at Andrew Talisker's website:
> www.networkintrusion.co.uk
>
> Cheers,
> Detmar
>
>
>
> ---------------original message-------------------
> >Say, I am looking into NFR for reselling additional
> IDS technologies. Like
> >to get some feedback and had some concerns based on
> recent discussions with
> >other security friends.
> >
> >There is a rumor floating around that they are
> having financial bankruptcy
> >problems and I usually do not trust rumors, but
> with a private company that
> >does not disclose its financial status, it is hard
> to tell. Does anyone
> >know if this is even remotely possible?
> >
> >Additionally, What happened to Marcus Ranum? He
> was the founder and driver
> >of NFR in its technology innovation. On a recent
> visit to NFR's website
> >under the mgt link
> (<http://www.nfr.com/pressroom/profile/>), Marcus is
> not
> >listed anywhere. Is this a sign that he is no
> longer involved?
> >
> >I'm concerned when the technology genius and
> visionary behind a company
> >leaves without any statement.
> >
> >As a reseller, my customers trust me to sell high
> quality products with a
> >long support life. I don't want to find out that
> NFR is no longer capable
> >of supporting my customers for the above reasons.
> Can anyone clarify and
> >cleanup these issues?
> >
> >With too many IDS companies to choose from, I
> believe this market is going
> >to consolidate and many of these players won't be
> around tomorrow. I'm
> >trying to be picky in my selecting of IDS
> technology. If there is other
> IDS
> >technologies that people would highly recommend,
> please let me know.
> >
> >-----
> >Samuel J. Cure
>
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