Re: Firewall Tester 0.6

From: Andrea Barisani (lcars@infis.univ.trieste.it)
Date: 04/11/02


Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 09:56:44 +0200
From: Andrea Barisani <lcars@infis.univ.trieste.it>
To: Steve <steve@securesolutions.org>

On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 11:10:25PM -0600, Steve wrote:
> I agree with Greg on this point. In theory, if you replay 100 signature
> files the IDS should detect 100/100 of the "attacks". If you actually
> do the attacks themselves you are performing a true test.
>

You are right, it 'should' :-), this tool is made for testing the 100/100
correlation wich depends on many factor (IDS placement, stateful inspection
engine, sniffing method, configuration and tresholds) and its not always true,
and NOT IDS efficiency on real attacks.

That's obvious since usually a series of alerts is a sign of an attack and
not a single unrelated event.

In fact we are testing the IDS engine not the person that's reviewing the
alerts nor the rules.

Maybe I should put a disclaimer if you think this point isn't enough clear ;)

Bye

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