RE: IDS Correlation

From: Marcus J. Ranum (mjr@nfr.com)
Date: 03/28/02


Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 11:33:19 -0500
To: "Matthew F. Caldwell" <mattc@guarded.net>, "Jared A. Tucker" <jared.tucker@terradon.com>, <eddonega@WellsFargo.COM>, "Keith T. Morgan" <keith.morgan@terradon.com>
From: "Marcus J. Ranum" <mjr@nfr.com>

Matthew F. Caldwell wrote:
>XML is great but bloated

Just like everything, it can be overengineered. The concepts
aren't awful, though. The stuff I've been doing with fargo
uses a subset of XML - which should work through an XML parser
but that only uses a minimum of tags, etc. The reality of them
matter is that you're going to need some kind of record delineation,
whether it's commas, newlines, attr=value, or whatever.

Otherwise you've got to crush everything into text and then have
a de-parser on the other side. Considered otherwise, that's
basically the same thing as doing a compression/decompression
process (only harder to implement!) on the data. In other words,
I don't think you can win this fight and the correct tool(s) to
make the problem go away are found in compression algorithms,
not in simpler (or more complex!) markup schemes.

mjr.

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