Re: On classifying attacks

From: Godwin Stewart (gstewart_at_spamcop.net)
Date: 07/17/05

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    To: Derek Martin <code@pizzashack.org>
    
    

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    On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 12:40:29 -0400, Derek Martin <code@pizzashack.org> wrote:

    > It seems to me your statement can't be correct, because this is ALWAYS
    > the case. A local exploit requires that a local user run an
    > executable. A remote exploit requires that a local user run an
    > executable, even if that is accomplished merely by booting the system.
    > All exploits require running code, and code doesn't magically start
    > itself... Running code is required, because it is the very running
    > code which is being exploited.

    Maybe so, however with the case of the BIND attack, the vulnerability in
    locally running code (named) is being exploited by a remote attacker via the
    network.

    In the case of an e-mail containing malicious code, the code being exploited
    (parts of the Windows kernel or whatever) is being attacked by code running
    locally - on the *same* machine. In this sense it can hardly qualify as a
    "remote" exploit.

    - --
    G. Stewart - gstewart@spamcop.net

    A lot of money is tainted. 'Taint yours and 'taint mine.
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