Re: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes

From: David F. Skoll (dfs_at_roaringpenguin.com)
Date: 09/29/04

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    Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 21:45:31 -0400 (EDT)
    To: Simon <lists@sime.org.uk>
    
    

    On Tue, 28 Sep 2004, Simon wrote:

    > Sometimes, IMHO, there's just no alternative to pen and paper. Surely
    > the manual method of ticking a box and having multiple human vote
    > counters checking ballots is the best option going, even if it is more
    > expensive. (I confess I've no idea what costs are involved either way.)

    According to Elections Canada, the 2000 general election cost $200.6
    million (Canadian dollars). But this included everything, including
    maintenance of voter registries, reimbursement of expenses to
    political parties and candidates, etc.

    Source: http://www.elections.ca/content.asp?section=faq&document=faqelec&lang=e

    In that election, there were 28,846,761 voters, so the cost
    per voter was around $6.95 Canadian, or $5.43 US.

    I suspect that the cost to actually count the votes is significantly less
    than this figure. I have no idea what the figures are for electronic
    voting, but I doubt it can be done for much under $4 to $5/voter.

    Consider that the average polling station contributes a couple of
    hundred votes to the total. So you can hire six people at $25/hour
    for 5 hours each (two shifts) to man the station and count the
    ballots afterwards, and you've spent $750, some of which you recover
    in the form of income tax. :-)

    Now how many voting machines would such a polling station require? And can
    you buy a super-de-duper-de-luxe voting machine for $750?

    --
    David.
    

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