RE: Edonkey/Overnet Plugins capable of Virus/Worm behavior

From: ashton (ashton_at_joltmedia.com)
Date: 12/19/03

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    To: "'Max'" <max@maxandcarrie.com>, "'Pavel Kankovsky'" <peak@argo.troja.mff.cuni.cz>
    Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 22:53:05 -0500
    
    

    I do not know that emule can use plugins at this time.

    -ashton

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Max [mailto:max@maxandcarrie.com]
    Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 3:32 PM
    To: ashton; 'Pavel Kankovsky'
    Cc: bugtraq@securityfocus.com
    Subject: RE: Edonkey/Overnet Plugins capable of Virus/Worm behavior

    Does this same plugin system also apply to emule?

    On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 07:03:17 -0500, ashton wrote
    > 1. giFT is unix - until noted otherwise, so goodluck. 2. Windows
    > Media is not P2P with a built in search of 1.2 million people for
    > the "uber upload limit crack plugin" in which when loaded is an
    > actual virus, it's very hard for joe average to get a harmful WMP
    > plugin but with this method in Overnet it's too easy, plus they
    > could propogate themselves through Overnet vulnerabilities on top.
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Pavel Kankovsky [mailto:peak@argo.troja.mff.cuni.cz]
    > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 6:43 PM
    > To: Julian Ashton
    > Cc: bugtraq@securityfocus.com
    > Subject: Re: Edonkey/Overnet Plugins capable of Virus/Worm behavior
    >
    > On 17 Dec 2003, Julian Ashton wrote:
    >
    > > Good question, I have been working on plugin systems suchs as giFT and
    > > Windows Media for quite a while and while they can do some neat
    > > things, this kind of behavoir cannot happen because of the way they
    > > were architechted. When I think of "plugins" I think of 1. An sdk. 2.
    > > Methods that you create that the "client" listens for. 3. All code in
    > > the plugin is sent to the "client" not the OS level. 4. Mainly COM
    > > (this plugin uses full use of C++/MFC in a DLL)
    >
    > Excuse me...how do giFT or Windows Media prevent their plugins from
    > accessing the OS interface directly and doing whatever they (the
    > plugins) want to do? Do they run the plugins in a virtual machine?
    >
    > --Pavel Kankovsky aka Peak [ Boycott Microsoft--
    > http://www.vcnet.com/bms ] "Resistance is futile. Open your source
    > code and prepare for assimilation."

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