Re: Buffer overflow prevention
From: Jedi/Sector One (j_at_pureftpd.org)
Date: 08/14/03
- Previous message: Timo Sirainen: "Re: Buffer overflow prevention"
- In reply to: Mariusz Woloszyn: "Re: Buffer overflow prevention"
- Next in thread: Miod Vallat: "Re: Buffer overflow prevention"
- Reply: Miod Vallat: "Re: Buffer overflow prevention"
- Reply: Peter Busser: "Re: Buffer overflow prevention"
- Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] [ attachment ]
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 20:47:21 +0200 To: Mariusz Woloszyn <emsi@ipartners.pl>
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 07:26:47PM +0200, Mariusz Woloszyn wrote:
> What we're discussing here is an internal structures and data protecting.
> IMHO the ProPolice (http://www.research.ibm.com/trl/projects/security/ssp/),
> is the best protection in this kind, even comparing to "two stack"
> approach.
ProPolice is not magical, though. There are plenty of cases where it is
totally inefficient. To illustrate a very common one :
#include <string.h>
struct Test {
char str[5];
};
int main(void)
{
struct Test x;
strcpy(x.str, "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA");
return 0;
}
Propolice doesn't see anything wrong and eip happily goes to 0x41414141.
Propolice also doesn't give any protection against heap overflows.
So the best protection is probably Propolice + non exec stack + write xor
executable pages. Oh, surprise, this is just how OpenBSD works.
This is still not a magical protection against everything. A vulnerable
application can still behave abnormally after an overflow. But this couple
makes injection + execution of arbitrary code way more tricky.
The only way to sleep quietly is still to audit the code at the first place.
-- __ /*- Frank DENIS (Jedi/Sector One) <j@42-Networks.Com> -*\ __ \ '/ Secure FTP Server \' / \/ Misc. free software \/
- Previous message: Timo Sirainen: "Re: Buffer overflow prevention"
- In reply to: Mariusz Woloszyn: "Re: Buffer overflow prevention"
- Next in thread: Miod Vallat: "Re: Buffer overflow prevention"
- Reply: Miod Vallat: "Re: Buffer overflow prevention"
- Reply: Peter Busser: "Re: Buffer overflow prevention"
- Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] [ attachment ]