Re: Norton Internet Security 2003 blacklist fault?

From: Sym Security (symsecurity_at_SYMANTEC.COM)
Date: 09/10/03

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    Date:         Wed, 10 Sep 2003 15:54:27 -0600
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    Norton Internet Security conducts DNS lookups the first time that a
    specific firewall rule is evaluated. DNS resolutions are handled
    through
    an internal cache of DNS names, so resolution depends on the system
    having
    resolved the address in the past.

    We are investigating ways to periodically update DNS resolutions to
    keep
    them up to date and hope to add this functionality in a future
    release.

    For issue #2, if the user creates a rule to block <somecompany>.com,
    news.<somecompany>.com will not be blocked because it is a different
    computer than <somecompany>.com -- blocking the IP of one computer
    doesn't
    block the IP of a different computer, even if they have the same
    suffix.

    Greg Lawton wrote:
    > Hello, all. First time poster on this list - so be gentle!
    >
    > I was going to post this in a Symantec newsgroup first, and give
    > them a chance to respond - but I took one look at the hundreds of
    > groups that they run...
    >
    > Basically, Norton Internet Security (tested with the current 2003
    > version) has, like any other firewall, an ability to stop access to
    > a given site depending on a firewall rule.
    >
    > I have discovered that when you enter a rule to block a specific
    > site, the software does a regular lookup for the sites IP address
    > at the time you enter the rule. (So it can't add sites while you're
    > off line - it has to be able to talk to your DNS server). That IP
    > address is used as the blacklist target.
    >
    > Several worrying problems with this :-
    >
    > 1) If the blocked site then changes IP address, it's not caught.
    > The ruleset will give the name of the site you think it's blocking,
    > but it doesn't know it's moved. Since the block runs on IP
    > addresses, that site is free to be accessed again. 2) Because large
    > sites have multiple subdomains, such as www.bbc.co.uk,
    > news.bbc.co.uk, this means that just entering bbc.co.uk (don't know
    > why you'd want to ban the fine BBC, but it's an example) won't
    > block news.bbc.co.uk.
    >
    > Basically, it doesn't block on matching the URL typed with the
    > ruleset, it blocks on a blacklist of IP addresses resolved at the
    > time each site was added.
    >
    > What do you all think?
    >
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