Re: Towards a responsible vulnerability process

From: Ryan Russell (ryan@SECURITYFOCUS.COM)
Date: 11/05/01


Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.30.0111041908570.14583-100000@mail>
Date:         Sun, 4 Nov 2001 19:17:55 -0700
From: Ryan Russell <ryan@SECURITYFOCUS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Towards a responsible vulnerability process
To: NTBUGTRAQ@LISTSERV.NTBUGTRAQ.COM

On Sun, 4 Nov 2001, Ernst Lopes Cardozo wrote:

> A proposal for an "Automatic Software Recall" service.
>

I would propose something simpler, a dead-man switch. If you don't apply
an MS-signed patch within 3 months, your machine drops off the net, except
for your ability to download patches. You can do lots of variations, such
as only IIS servers, DC's, etc... or for a home machine, just make the
browser only be able to go to Windowsupdate or some such until they apply
the patch. Whenever the next patch gets applied, the counter is reset.
Sure, you could write code to disable the feature, or knock back the date,
etc... but if you're knowledable enough to do that, and you refuse to
apply patches, then you get what you deserve.

Think Microsoft would never do it? Think too many people would hate it?
I would have thought that stuff too, until I learned that MS is willing to
do that for the sake of copy protection in the XP products. Hey, if they
can do it to us to support their license revenue, why not for the sake of
security?

We track the age of exploits being attempted around the world in our ARIS
system. With the exception of a couple of recent worms, the huge majority
of the attempts are for holes that are over a year old.

                                                Ryan



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