FW: Information Anarchy

From: Schneider, Rick (RickSchneider@SIERRASYSTEMS.COM)
Date: 11/03/01


Message-ID:  <2417BD0B3A2D5A4086512AD8BDDB1D4E023111D9@scvanex1.sierrasys.com>
Date:         Fri, 2 Nov 2001 15:51:23 -0800
From: "Schneider, Rick" <RickSchneider@SIERRASYSTEMS.COM>
Subject:      FW: Information Anarchy
To: NTBUGTRAQ@LISTSERV.NTBUGTRAQ.COM

3 quick points to make a fourth:

1. The black hats and the white hats are both very talented - generally, any
disclosure discovered by a white hat is either already known or likely to
soon be discovered by a black hat.

2. Any alternative to full disclosure that I've seen is primarily designed
to keep the script kiddies from playing with new exploits. The problem is
that all such alternatives also keep me (as a user and not a vendor) from
knowing about a security hole for an indeterminate amount of time while the
black hat community has access to the compromise.

3. The script kiddies are a major problem, but the hard core black hats
represent a major threat to our organizations.

And so, point 4, I am willing to strive to keep up with all the security
warnings and advisories, and the flood of attacks from the script kiddies in
order to have a shot at keeping the real bad guys from coasting through my
systems. Hence, full disclosure is the only option.

Rick Schneider
Technology Director
Sierra Systems Consultants
email rickschneider@sierrasystems.com
<mailto:rickschneider@sierrasystems.com>
604.8901.6240

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