Re: [Full-disclosure] Windows 7 UAC compromised



I'm with Valdis on this one. You have to understand that Windows is probably
as popular as it is now very largely *because* of the freedom the OS offered
people *and* software makers to do what they want with it. This is not
entirely different from DRM vs Unrestricted media...

In order for Microsoft to do anything proper about it, they would have to
splinter their market and either piss off software makers that depend upon
the ease of use, or piss of users who want freedom to put whatever app they
want on their system or make whatever changes without aggravation. And any
major off-putting change would give many people and businesses a reason to
explore alternatives...

One thing in our (and Microsoft's) favor towards securing the end user
experience is the growing number of people who realize two things. It's
their own fault when their system gets stupidly slow because Windows lets
them be stupid. And as people "grow up" into computers they reealize they
only really do 10 things on them and only really need 10 different apps.

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 12:14 PM, <Valdis.Kletnieks@xxxxxx> wrote:

On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 12:02:56 CST, Miller Grey said:

...knowing all this, how does it get fixed? What is the proper way for
MS
to enforce UAC?

I'm quite frankly not convinced that there is in fact any economically
feasible
way for MS to ship a "proper" UAC.
_______________________________________________
Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html
Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/

Relevant Pages

  • Re: How to close a shelled process?
    ... gets the processID via the OpenProcess API and then calls TerminateProcess ... I would guess there's a way to enumerate the windows of a given process, ... reverted to killing the app, when that app was a 64-bit process. ... Without the freedom to offend, ...
    (microsoft.public.vb.general.discussion)
  • Re: Windows.. its like coming home!
    ... gradual transition, especially in going from OS 9 to OS X. ... They needed something that could compete with Windows, ... mean by the "2 of every app" comment before - Apple took whatever apps ... I've found that because the Dock shows applications rather than windows, ...
    (comp.sys.mac.advocacy)
  • Re: Windows.. its like coming home!
    ... gradual transition, especially in going from OS 9 to OS X. ... They needed something that could compete with Windows, ... mean by the "2 of every app" comment before - Apple took whatever apps ... I've found that because the Dock shows applications rather than windows, ...
    (comp.sys.mac.advocacy)
  • RE: Beginners Questions
    ... We do use Windows form on the presentation layer which is on ... terminal server and call web services on the business logic side. ... of using "proxy" authentication on SQL Server. ... > I have written an app with a Windows Forms UI that is deployed to clients ...
    (microsoft.public.dotnet.distributed_apps)
  • Re: Frustration level with Windows -- ARG!
    ... I can have an app sieze and you can go take a ten ... That is MS-Outlook, not Windows. ... to the processes tab, not the applications tab. ... and it tries to stop them "gently" if it can, before resorting to kill -9. ...
    (comp.sys.mac.advocacy)