Re: [Full-disclosure] [Professional IT Security Providers - Exposed] QuietMove ( D - )

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Adam

I appreciate that you have to defend your firm, but why are you
giving the skiddie the satisfaction of even acknowledging his
existence?

Don't be fooled by the "we", secreview is one person. A kid of
maybe 15 sitting in his room looking for something better to do
besides squeezing spots and masturbating to the demo dollies on the
shopping channel.

Not a single person here has had anything but derision for the
fool's efforts, none of which have added or will ever add anything
useful to the trade. I look forward to the day when he "reviews" a
big firm and they send the lawyers in to hopefully take his parents
(some people shouldn't be allowed to breed) house, and his computer
away.

If he is universally ignored, he will get bored and go away.
Perhaps with luck he will direct his reviewing "talents" to
something useful, like hairdressers, or cosmetics, where simply
reading a website has some relevance to the product, not.

SR



On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 15:04:48 +0000 Adam Muntner
<adam.muntner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Your review gets a d-.

You can't add. You can't spell. Your skills appear to be limited
to
rudimentary use of a browser and linkedin.com. In combination with


your undeserved and unearned sense of self importance, pretty
pathetic.

You spelled Marcin's last name wrong. Great use of linkedin.com.
You
can't even cunt n paste. He interned for us last semester. He
isn't a
front line consultant. So,you fail the ^c ^v and spelling
practical,
as well as the investigative one. We have 2 other consultants
besides
myself-they don't use linkedin and you didnt find them. Our
clients
know our consultants. We don't post their names on the website.

F is for failure.

As for my experience - I was also a the security officer for an at

the
time publicly traded company for 2 years, the IT director of 2
.com
startups where security was my responsibility for several years,
and
for the last 2 have been deeply involved with all customer
engagements.
Prior to that I spent the 90s architecting, developing, and
leading
developer teams.
I hsve been pentesting since 98 and nearly nonstop since 2000. You


were what, 11 years old then? Clearly, basic arithmetic isn't a
strong
point of yours, either. I suspect you spent the 90s in grammar
school.
At lest you seemed to learn something there.

On that note....

Most of our clients are referred by others who are very satisfied
with
the work we perform. Not by the website. It doesn't get a lot of
attention - were small but growing and focused on serving our
clients.
I know basic HTML seems like the pinnacle of achievement to you,
but
we aren't in the business of making pretty web pages. We discuss
our
methodology with our clients-we don't post it on the web. I know
you
were hoping to learn nimething. Hacking for dummies might be more
your
speed, after you perfect your Cunt and Paste skills.

I took the plunge and started what is now a growing business
nearly 2
years ago, and we now serve 3 fortune 1000 clients, replacing much


larger firms, plus a good number of midsize clients. Being an
entrepreneur is a lot more challenging than being an anonymous
anklebite, though from your moms basement it might not seem that
way.

I'm heading to Manhattan for some R&R right now. If you are in the


vicinity let me know, I'll buy you a beer (if you're 21) and you
can
meet me yourself and post a review or somthing.

Don't take this wrong - consider it constructive criticism and try


harder next time. It's good to know we are recognized enough to be


noticed by the mighty, anonymous secreview. This might even double

our
daily web traffic to 20 visitors. ;)

Adam Muntner
Managing Partner
QuietMove, Inc.
http://www.quietmove.com

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On Dec 31, 2007, at 4:13 PM, secreview <secreview@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

QuiteMove, located at http://www.quitemove.com is a small
Professional IT Security Services Provider that offers Training


services, Incident Response Services, Web Application Security
Services and Penetration Testing Services. QuiteMove was started

by
Adam Munter in 2006 along with Jeffrey Rassas, and James Garvey,

Jr.
You can read their mission statement here
"http://www.mywikibiz.com/Directory:QuietMove
" (but its pretty basic).

When reviewing the QuiteMove website and people we were not the


least bit impressed. The QuiteMove website is packed full of
grammatical errors and many of the services don't even have
descriptions. The services that do have descriptions are very
poorly
written and very poorly defined. Take a look at their
Penetration
Testing service offering as an example. If you want to see an
example of no content check out their Social Engineering
offering.

Since we were unable to extract anything useful from the
materials
provided to us by QuiteMove we decided to focus on the talent
behind
QuietMove. Unfortunately we were equally unimpressed. The only
technically oriented team members that we were able to identify


within QuietMove were Adam Munter, who is a founder and Marcin
Wielgoszewsk, who is a very "green" consultant. Seeing as Adam
Munter is being positioned as the technical visionary for
QuietMove,
we decided to focus on him and not on Marcin.

Adam's Linkedin Bio: http://tinyurl.com/yt9j2y

As it turns out Adam Munter worked for Accuvant, a company that


competes directly with Adam's QuietMove; prior to founding
QuietMove. Adam's role at Accuvant was to lead consultants on IT


Security Engagements for large orginazations. In conjunction
with
this, Adam also spoke at conferences. He worked here for 1 year
and
1 month.

Prior to working for Accuvant, Adam worked for Pegasus Solutions


Inc. as the acting Chief Security Officer. Pegasus is the
largest
hotel reservation distribution system vendor and a major vendor
of
Hotel Management systems. Adam did get some Sarbanes Oxley work


under his belt as he helped Pegasus to successfully "marshall"
through their first audit. Adam also initiated the program to
help
get Pegasus to be Visa CISP compliant, including evaluating and


changing their handling of payment Cardholder data. He worked
here
for 2 years and 1 month.

From August 2000 to January 2003 Adam was a "Founding member of


IBM's Ethical Hacking Center of Competency." His
responsibilities
included being a technical interviewer for new hires, a
Penetration
Testing Subject Matter Expert, and the performance of consulting


engagements for clients ranging from midsize companies and
government agencies to the fortune 500. Adam worked for IBM for
2
years and 6 months.

So if we add up the relevant experience that Adam has had
according
to his linked in bio we get 1 year and 1 month + 2 years and 6
months, which is a grand total of 3 years and 7 months of
professional IT Security Consulting Experience. Not sure about
our
readers, but to us at Secreview that hardly makes Adam an IT
Security Expert.

But wait, now we have a discrepancy...

According to the QuietMove website, Adam "has over 14 years of
experience in information security, software, and product R&D
with 8
years being dedicated solely to security." His QuietMove bio
goes on
to say "Adam’s particular talents include penetration testing of

web
and binary applications, networks, systems, and SCADA, “social
engi
neering” and physical penetration of facilities, and in
developing p
rofessional services offerings."

This just doesn't add up.

Anyway, remember we didn't set out to bash anyone here, but
Adam/
QuietMove put himself/themselves in the line of fire. QuietMove


appears to be a very small and disorganized shop. Their website
is
half-assed and incomplete and we can't say anything better about


their talent profile. We suggest that QuietMove complete their
website and review their talent profile, then we'll set out to
do
another review and see if they score better. As of right now, we


can't give them more than a D-. We'll keep an eye on their
website
and redo this review if they ever fix their issues.


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