Re: [Full-disclosure] mac trojan in-the-wild
- From: "Robert McArdle" <robertmcardle@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 10:42:10 +0000
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Profit-driven malware has gotten very good at using Social Engineering
(backed up with Exploits) to spread itself. Zlob and it Codecs are one
particular example that has worked very well on Windows, even by
simply getting the user to install the software willingly. The
Storm/Zhelatin/Russian Business Network group however are by far the
best at this. They have shown time and time the power of simple Social
Engineering in order to infect victims machines. Zlob may have been
the first for profit malware to make the jump, but if it proves
profitable it will not be long before the others follow.
Robert McArdle
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On Nov 1, 2007 9:49 PM, Alex Eckelberry < AlexE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Let's not over-hype this-- while "Apple's day" has been coming, sayingthat users will be "hit hard" on something the user has to
manually download, manually execute, and explicitly grantadministrative privileges to is *way* over the top.
The future of malware is going to be largely through social engineering.
Does that mean we ignore every threat that comes out because it requires
user interaction? Seems like whistling past the graveyard to me.
Alex
-----Original Message-----
From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 8:15 PM
To: Gadi Evron; bugtraq@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx;
full-disclosure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: mac trojan in-the-wild
For whoever didn't hear, there is a Macintosh trojan in-the-wild being
dropped, infecting mac users.
Yes, it is being done by a regular online gang--itw--it is not yet
another proof of concept. The same gang infects Windows machines as
well, just that now they also target macs.
http://sunbeltblog.blogspot.com/2007/10/screenshot-of-new-mac-
trojan.html
http://sunbeltblog.blogspot.com/2007/10/mackanapes-can-now-can-feel-
pain-of.html
This means one thing: Apple's day has finally come and Apple users are
going to get hit hard. All those unpatched vulnerabilities from years
past are going to bite them in the behind.
Let's not over-hype this-- while "Apple's day" has been coming, saying
that users will be "hit hard" on something the user has to manually
download, manually execute, and explicitly grant administrative
privileges to is *way* over the top.
I can sum it up in one sentence: OS X is the new Windows 98. Investing
in security ONLY as a last resort losses money, but everyone has to
learn it for themselves.
Not "the new Windows 98" by a long shot - saying that is just
irresponsible. While Apple is not used to dealing with security in the
same way that other companies are, comparing OSX to Windows 98 is not
only a huge technical inaccuracy, but you also insult MAC users out
there. OSX had "UAC-like unprivileged user controls" way before Vista
did - let's not try to start some holy-war on this like people have
tried to do with Windows vs Linux in the past.
If you want to report this, then report it-- but say what it is, a
totally lame user-must-be-drunk "exploit" that requires that all manner
of things go wrong before it works -- otherwise people will think that
you've dressed up as Steve Gibson for Halloween.
t
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