Re: [Full-disclosure] [Dailydave] Hacking software is lame -- try medical research...

Just like technology research (hacking)... but... if you are the one
that finds a cure, you'll make your buck too.

M. Shirk wrote:
There is more money to be made in the treatment of a disease, then
actually finding a cure.

Remind you of anything?

Shirkdog
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http://www.shirkdog.us

Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 10:37:20 -0700
From: kristian.hermansen@xxxxxxxxx
To: full-disclosure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; dailydave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [Dailydave] Hacking software is lame -- try medical research...

Some interesting discussion came up on some security lists this week
and it got me to thinking. Yes, hacking software is lame. Cool, so
you found some vulnerabilities in some widely distributed application,
service, or OS and it is patched just as quickly. Why don't we spend
our time and valuable energy researching cures for rare or popular
diseases instead? For instance, my brother (Jon Hermansen) has a very
rare disease called Langerhans Cell Histiocytosis. It is also better
known as LCH. It can be identified as causing such further diseases
as Diabetes Insipidus, which is also uncommon (not sugar diabetes).
Have you heard of these diseases before? Let me educate you…

General Information:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Langerhans_cell_histiocytosis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diabetes_insipidus

Seven Part Video Series:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KkBRqZS8nfM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=w1h6ZjxF-To
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0ojbJpERlt8
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dzUqdYofMCQ
http://youtube.com/watch?v=lNhzwNYhi0M
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nY9DDEhShcE
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5_8SEYyEZGI

And even worse than this, a friend of mine who is a PhD student in
Math at Berkeley has an even rarer disease known as Gaucher's Disease.
This costs $550,000 / year to treat. That's a hefty bill every year
(you make that much doing security vulns?), and some insurance
companies might refuse to accept you due to "pre-existing" conditions.
So guess what, my friend does not have health insurance and has not
been treated for two years. A genius might die. That's ludicrous.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaucher's_disease
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0nX6QM5iVaU

If we consider ourselves decent "hackers", why don't we put our
efforts toward helping cure this and other diseases rather than some
very simple programming vulnerability? Is it because then we would
have to reinvent a whole new slew of tools and re-orient/re-educate
ourselves to be successful? Think about it…
--
Kristian Erik Hermansen
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