Re: [Full-disclosure] Re: Bluetooth Activesync - requesting test

On 2/9/06, Dave Korn <davek_throwaway@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Stan Bubrouski wrote:
Ever since Greg disagreed with me in that ZoneAlarm thread Dave and I
were arguing in, Greg has been forwarding all messages I send to the
list back to me.

Stan, it is possible you could be being manipulated by someone who's
trying to bait you and Greg into a fight by forwarding you his postings in a
spoofed/forged name; that sort of thing happens quite often on this list.

No check the headers they are below.


As indeed do broken reflectors and autoreplybots and all sorts of
non-malicious things.


He's forwarding them from both addresses he has subscribed to the list.

And indeed sometimes flamewars erupt and someone does bombard someone else
with posts from the list.


Yes and the person can unsubscribe or set rules to trash messages from
people they don't like rather than filling their mailboxes like 10
year old script kiddies.

Have you checked the headers to see if they're coming from the same IP
addresses he usually posts from? It's worth making double sure what's
actually going on.


Yes I did I wouldn't have bothered posting if I didn't, I'd expect
more from Greg though I'm starting to have my doubts about his
competence.

Hey, a how-to of tracking headers would even make for an on-topic thread!


People on this list using posts to this list to harrass other
contributors is on topic its called full-disclosure not
full-intimidation.

Here are the partial headers judge for yourself:
Delivered-To: stan.bubrouski@xxxxxxxxx
Received: by 10.54.78.4 with SMTP id a4cs21898wrb;
Wed, 8 Feb 2006 19:33:11 -0800 (PST)
Received: by 10.64.148.16 with SMTP id v16mr508287qbd;
Wed, 08 Feb 2006 19:33:10 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Received: from vscan02.westnet.com.au (vscan02.westnet.com.au [203.10.1.132])
by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q15si92451qbq.2006.02.08.19.33.08;
Wed, 08 Feb 2006 19:33:10 -0800 (PST)
Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 203.10.1.132 is neither permitted
nor denied by best guess record for domain of greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])
by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD1D711B456
for <stan.bubrouski@xxxxxxxxx>; Thu, 9 Feb 2006 11:33:07 +0800 (WST)
Received: from vscan02.westnet.com.au ([127.0.0.1])
by localhost (vscan02.westnet.com.au [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
with ESMTP id 07529-14 for <stan.bubrouski@xxxxxxxxx>;
Thu, 9 Feb 2006 11:33:07 +0800 (WST)
Received: from P4 (dsl-220-235-109-182.nsw.westnet.com.au [220.235.109.182])
by vscan02.westnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id F001611B94C
for <stan.bubrouski@xxxxxxxxx>; Thu, 9 Feb 2006 11:33:06 +0800 (WST)
Return-Receipt-To: "Greg" <greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: "Greg" <greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <stan.bubrouski@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: FW: Re: [Full-disclosure] Bluetooth Activesync - requesting test

And:
X-Gmail-Received: 9f257bbd2acc0b72366a3b169864544d27fde993
Delivered-To: stan.bubrouski@xxxxxxxxx
Received: by 10.54.78.4 with SMTP id a4cs21924wrb;
Wed, 8 Feb 2006 19:34:53 -0800 (PST)
Received: by 10.65.121.15 with SMTP id y15mr2057023qbm;
Wed, 08 Feb 2006 19:34:49 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <full-disclosure2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Received: from vscan03.westnet.com.au (vscan03.westnet.com.au [203.10.1.142])
by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q19si93451qbq.2006.02.08.19.34.48;
Wed, 08 Feb 2006 19:34:49 -0800 (PST)
Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 203.10.1.142 is neither permitted
nor denied by best guess record for domain of
full-disclosure2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])
by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF11BB607E2
for <stan.bubrouski@xxxxxxxxx>; Thu, 9 Feb 2006 11:34:46 +0800 (WST)
Received: from vscan03.westnet.com.au ([127.0.0.1])
by localhost (vscan03.westnet.com.au [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
with ESMTP id 20017-05-6 for <stan.bubrouski@xxxxxxxxx>;
Thu, 9 Feb 2006 11:34:46 +0800 (WST)
Received: from P4 (dsl-220-235-109-182.nsw.westnet.com.au [220.235.109.182])
by vscan03.westnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 179A6B60A61
for <stan.bubrouski@xxxxxxxxx>; Thu, 9 Feb 2006 11:34:44 +0800 (WST)
Return-Receipt-To: "Greg" <full-disclosure2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: "Greg" <full-disclosure2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <stan.bubrouski@xxxxxxxxx>

Seems downright childish to me (talking about Greg not Dave, I
disagree with Dave but Dave I can respect).

Best Regards,
Stan Bubrouski

cheers,
DaveK
--
Can't think of a witty .sigline today....


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