Re: [Full-disclosure] [Clips] A small editorial about recent events.(fwd)




I'm not a blind apologist that is willing to defend everything that has been done, but if you want to go down that road, Germany is not entirely innocent of human rights violations.


I translate documents for historians, and I can promise that Germany has done far worse things. We are not looking for leibensraum - we are just looking to be safe.

Given the history of terrorist activity in Germany, I'm really surprised that you feel the way you do - your government is benefitting from the intelligence that is being gathered as well. Thankfully, Ms. Merkel seems to understand that.

JCP


On Dec 18, 2005, at 10:24 PM, GroundZero Security wrote:

indeed and thats not the onlyone. in iraq some cap driver got carried away because
his customer happened to be a terrorist. how should he know ? he got taken to some
prisoner camp, tortured for 3 months and then when they noticed he isnt a terrorist but
an ordinary taxi driver, he got sent back home the same whey he got carried away - in chains.
so much for human rights. thats why those camps arent in usa so u.s law doesnt count.
its really sad that something like those camps is still possible in our modern times.




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From: "J.A. Terranson" <measl@xxxxxxx>
To: "Jamie C. Pole" <jpole@xxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 5:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] [Clips] A small editorial about recent events.(fwd)




On Sun, 18 Dec 2005, Jamie C. Pole wrote:

If you are not a terrorist, and do not associate with terrorists,
you have nothing to worry about.

Like the guy we kidnapped in Germany, tortured for a year and then released with a "Oh, wrong guy. Sorry."?

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Just once, can't we have a nice polite discussion about the logistics and planning side of large criminal enterprise?

- Steve Thompson


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