Re: [Full-disclosure] Re: The Wireless Networking Excuse
Date: 08/30/05

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    Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 20:11:30 -0700 (PDT)
    To: womber <>

    On Mon, 29 Aug 2005, womber wrote:

    > On 8/29/05, <> wrote:
    > > Has anyone examined the idea of using a public hotspot on a local
    > > network to shield BSA, RIAA, MPAA lawsuits? Since the tracking
    > > stops at the public facing IP, who is to say it wasn't some
    > > freeloader downloading the warez?
    > >
    > > Just looking for some feedback on this one...
    > It is an interesting point. I have thought about it myself in the
    > context of having my personal access point open to the public and if
    > someone hopped on and downloaded something. Would I be resposible if
    > they tracked it back to my AP? I am not a legal expert by any means but
    > I would think it would be comparable to someone using my phone to make a
    > harasing call. Although I am not sure how that would be ruled either.

    I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice -- I have heard that
    there is case law supporting that unsecured wireless communication are
    public domain, just as wireless telephone conversations are not considered
    privileged by the Court. If this is the case, then anyone with default
    wireless router settings are a legal public hotspot. If there is an
    attorney on this list I would love to read the actual opinion of this
    (these) alleged case(s). Currently, this information must be considered

    In the Portland area we have so many WAPs which are open that all we need
    to do is create wireless-bridging/routing points to route packets between
    overlapping wireless networks. In many cases, this wireless MAN would be
    faster point-to-point than going out the Internet and back to its
    destination. Since this MAN would be behind routers for the most part,
    bring your own firewall ;) -- Does anyone know of decent (cheap) low-power
    microcontrollers having 802.11 with I/O >5Mbit which support Linux?


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