Re: [Full-disclosure] Cisco IOS Shellcode Presentation

From: Edge, Ronald D (edge_at_indiana.edu)
Date: 08/03/05

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    >> Kohl's owns the Internet?
    >> Kohl's reserves the right to read my email I send my mom just because
    >> it's on the Internet?
    ...
    >The legal precedent for this is essentially "He who onws the network,
    >owns the data" (with respect to an employee/employeer relationship).
    >It's a bit different for commercial ISPs.

    >If your mom works at Kohls, don't email her there unless you want it
    >read (unless you PGP/gnuPG it). Then again, they could just have
    Spector
    >installed on the PC to capture screenshots/keystrokes of her at her
    >"company computer" (also completely legal).

    >~Mike.

    Because of legal issues for corporations, both private and public,
    this is expanding even to phones. New policy here at IU effective
    July 1 states that all staff using cell phones must buy their own
    devices and service provider contracts. They will receive a flat
    monthly supplemental stipend (I get $75.00/mo, I have a Blackberry
    that communicates with a BES server as well as phone service) to
    defray the costs of the use of their service for IU business.

    It is general knowledge that one of the prime motivators for this
    policy is to remove phone call content and logs from the various
    laws that cover public information and its disclosure under open
    access laws covering public institutions.

    Same is rapidly being applied to email. Over the past few years
    I have migrated 98% of my personal email, including all that has
    anything to do with my business interests, consulting, etc. that
    are not related to my primary employment, to my own email server
    and accounts I run off site, in order to shield them from any and
    all possible exposure/legal consequences.

    Any business owns full rights over the email services they offer
    their employees to do their job with. Bottom line.

    Ron.

    Ronald D. Edge
    Director of Information Systems
    Indiana University Intercollegiate Athletics
    edge@indiana.edu (812)855-9010
    http://iuhoosiers.com

    "When nothing seems to help, I go and look at a stonecutter hammering
    away
    at his rock perhaps 100 times without as much as a crack showing in it.
    Yet at the 101st blow, it will split in two, and I know it was not that
    blow that did it, but all that had gone before."

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