Re[2]: [Full-disclosure] Reuters: Microsoft to give holes info to UncleSam first - responsible vendor notification may not be a goodidea any more...

From: phased (phased_at_mail.ru)
Date: 03/13/05

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    From: Scott Edwards <supadupa@gmail.com>
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    Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 22:45:39 -0700
    Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Reuters: Microsoft to give holes info to UncleSam first - responsible vendor notification may not be a goodidea any more...

    >
    > On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 13:41:26 +0100, Tamas Feher <etomcat@freemail.hu> wrote:
    > > http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=technologyNews&storyID=7
    > > 876004&src=rss/technologyNews
    > >
    > > Microsoft to Offer Patches to U.S. Govt. First
    > > by Reuters, 11 Mar 2005
    > [snip]
    > > Under a plan to take effect later this year, Microsoft will give the
    > > U.S. Air Force versions of software "patches" to fix serious security
    > > vulnerabilities up to a month before they are available to others,
    > > the paper said.
    > [snip]
    >
    > Isn't the real issue we're trying to address, is that the US Govt's
    > advance knowledge of this information, does not serve the masses?
    >
    > My strongest opinion is to provide it for everyone at the same time.
    > This advance notice has some indication that someone does not have the
    > (wo)man power and action plan on how to handle these updates. Seems
    > like what ever reason they have, is a complete cop-out (Feel free to
    > enlighten me Uncle Sam, I honor thee, but why are thou so special?).
    > Two words for Uncle Sam. "Cowboy up!". Sure MSFT says the updates
    > will only be stalled to the public, "up to a month", but that could be
    > any amount of time.
    >
    > And this whole nonsense of "black hats only find these holes from
    > updates" is just that, nonsense. How many times have we seen a
    > website turn a browser into a mushroom cloud? I mean, we've NEVER
    > seen a program crash by visiting websites, right? Reproduce that, and
    > you've got yourself the makings of an exploit. What if the next
    > discovered hole is a worm writer? (I'm not meaning to suggest that
    > internet/www are not the only "critical updates" of concern in this
    > topic, but it's the easiest to illustrate)
    >
    > Thank you,
    >
    >
    > Scott Edwards
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