Re: [Full-Disclosure] Why is IRC still around?

From: nicolas vigier (boklm_at_mars-attacks.org)
Date: 11/23/04

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    To: Danny <nocmonkey@gmail.com>
    Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 20:21:45 +0100
    
    

    On Fri, 19 Nov 2004, Danny wrote:

    > Well, it sure does help the anti-virus (anti-malware) and security
    > consulting business, but besides that... is it not safe to say that:
    >
    > 1) A hell of a lot of viruses/worms/trojans use IRC to wreck further havoc?
    > 2) A considerable amount of "script kiddies" originate and grow through IRC?
    > 3) A wee bit of software piracy occurs?
    > 4) That many organized DoS attacks through PC zombies are initiated through IRC?
    > 5) The anonymity of the whole thing helps to foster all the illegal
    > and malicious activity that occurs?
    > The list goes on and on...
    >
    > Sorry to offend those that use IRC legitimately (LOL - find something
    > else to chat with your buddies), but why the hell are we not pushing
    > to sunset IRC?

    Are you really serious ? Is it a joke ?

    This remind me some stupid article I read on nytime :
    http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/06/technology/circuits/06chat.html
    (account required, if you don't have one try ptramo/ptramo)

    Read it, this is quite funny, they tell us that most of the bad things
    on the internet come from IRC. Here are some quotes :
    <<
    In a room called Prime-Tyme-Movies, users offered free pirated downloads
    of "The Passion of the Christ'' and "Kill Bill Vol. 2.''
    [...]
    And in a far less obtrusive channel, a hacker may well have been
    checking his progress of hacking into the computers of unsuspecting
    Internet users.
    [...]
    Yet that pirated copy of Microsoft Office or Norton Utilities that turns
    up on a home-burned CD-ROM may well have originated on I.R.C. And the
    Internet viruses and "denial of service'' attacks that periodically make
    news generally get their start there, too. This week, the network's chat
    rooms were abuzz with what seemed like informed chatter about the Sasser
    worm, which infected hundreds of thousands of computers over the
    weekend.
    [...]
    There seem to be I.R.C. channels dedicated to every sexual fetish, and
    I.R.C. users speculate that terrorists also use the networks to
    communicate in relative obscurity.
    [...]
    Some Internet experts believe that child pornography rings sometimes use
    their own private, password-protected I.R.C. servers. Particularly wary
    users can try to hide their identity by logging in to I.R.C. servers
    only through intermediary computers.
    [...]
    But perhaps the most disruptive use of I.R.C. is as a haven and
    communications medium for those who release viruses or try to disable
    Web sites and other Internet servers.
    >>

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