Re: [Full-Disclosure] Re: getting administrator rights on win2003 machine?
From: Ron DuFresne (dufresne_at_winternet.com)
To: Anders Langworthy <email@example.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:46:03 -0500 (CDT)
On Thu, 28 Oct 2004, Anders Langworthy wrote:
> > Somehow, I get the feeling that the original poster's site will discover
> > KVM switches around 2008 or so. ;)
> That's exactly my point. I don't necessarily approve of this list being
> used to help clueless script kiddies r00t systems, but the information
> needed to accomplish that feat is *identical* to the the information
> needed by clueless sysadmins to prevent against it.
> What if I had been the original poster, and had phrased my question from
> the standpoint of a system administrator requesting help in hardening a
> Windows 2003 server that has to be physically accessible? Would you
> have "seen through my ploy" and not helped me?
> This list is about helping people who are interested in computer
> security get *better* at computer security. I don't see how we can
> maintain that double standard without causing more harm than good.
the tigher one pulls the fine ethical line, the taunter it becomes and the
riskier it gets to walk said line.
Those asking for help in a flagrant manner as to expose their scemes as
illegal in the end, need to be flamed for the mere supposition that others
are blind to their intended actions. Paying a bit more attention to what
one is reading prior to spewing out 'answers' does help.
Course, it could all be added to the charter, this list is not intended to
help children with their homework nor fewls to break into systems...
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