Re: [Full-Disclosure] EEYE: Windows VDM #UD Local Privilege Escalation

From: David Maynor (dmaynor_at_gmail.com)
Date: 10/14/04

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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 19:05:04 -0400

    Its not that ISS doesn't feel like its a problem, its just when you
    let an attacker get to the point where they could run a local attack
    its game over. ISS's goal is to stop the attacker from getting close
    enogh to execute a local attack.

    On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 10:30:27 -0400, KF_lists <kf_lists@secnetops.com> wrote:
    > ISS would like to have you believe otherwise... when I contacted them
    > about the Local SYSTEM escalation in BlackICE we went in circles over
    > the fact that I feel that taking local SYSTEM on a win32 box IS a
    > problem and they don't. They tryed to say some crap like "in all our
    > years in the industry we have never had a customer state that local
    > windows security was a concern... blah blah (paraphrasing)". And
    > something along the lines of "Windows is not a true multi-user system
    > (like unix) so local escalation means nothing."
    >
    > -KF
    >
    >
    >
    > > Also, at least in MS Windows, it's my personal feeling that local
    > > privilege escalation issues (particularly escalation to kernel or system
    > > status) should be critical issues. Whether people can run arbitrary
    > > code on MS Windows systems these days isn't an exercise for the mind
    > > anymore, it's an exercise of "go look at your neighbors computer and see
    > > that it's done regularly".
    > >
    >
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