[Full-Disclosure] Rootkit For Spyware? Hide your adware from all Adware removers and Anti-viruses

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Date: 09/23/04

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    To: full-disclosure@lists.netsys.com
    Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 14:34:33 -0400
    
    

    Because you have never seen it means it doesn't exist? If it was
    "COMPLETELY hidden", maybe you just never found it.

    > > It is quite possible to hide processes, reg keys and files, and is often
    > > done by various malware.
    >
    > Aye. I didn't word my statements correctly. (Was tired... =P ) You are
    > very much correct.
    >
    > I guess I was trying to speak along the lines of AV detection and
    > forensics. I've yet to find a rootkit, spyware, or malware that is
    > COMPLETLY hidden, in every aspect, from the user. There is always a
    > way to find it. Granted, they can bypass the "usual means" (regedit,
    > taskmanager, etc) in Windows, however there are specialized tools
    > (process viewers for example) that show hidden processes. What I meant
    > to express is they seem to claim being able to hide from everything.
    > (Even if an AV solution detected the very program they use as an
    > installer.) That, I doubt.
    >
    >
    > To save someone else from saying this, I'll reply to my own comment. =)
    >
    > > I've yet to find a rootkit, spyware, or malware that is
    > > COMPLETLY hidden, in every aspect, from the user.
    >
    > Well, DUH. How could you find it if it was COMPLETELY hidden? ;)
    > Clarification: The user and a sysadmin that has a clue are two very
    > different people.)
    >
    > --
    > Peace. ~G
    >
    >
    > On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 14:38:34 +1000, Matt <matt@systemlinux.net> wrote:
    > > GuidoZ wrote:
    > > > Interesting indeed. Although, I imagine this was a spam email, and I
    > > > never believe (nor buy) anything from spam. I wondr how credible this
    > > > really is. If there was such a way to do what they claim, don't you
    > > > think it would have been big news? >One would think you wouldn't
    first
    > > > hear about it through spam.
    > > >
    > > It is quite possible to hide processes, reg keys and files, and is often
    > > done by various malware.
    > >
    > > > Also - nice website they have. http://www.randexsoft.com Simply says:
    > > >
    > > > Access Forbidden -- Go away.
    > > >
    > > > I love a company who is customer friendly.
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > > Peace. ~G
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 20:10:28 -0700 (PDT), Will Image
    > > > <xillwillx@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > > >
    > > >>I recieved this in my inbox today:
    > > >>how long do you think this company will last?
    > > >>
    > > >>
    > > >>>Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 19:02:44 -0400
    > > >>>From: Jacques Tremblay <jacques.tremblay@gmail.com>
    > > >>>To: xillwillx@yahoo.com
    > > >>>Subject: Hide your adware from all Adware removers
    > > >>>and Anti-viruses
    > > >>>
    > > >>>To: Business development manager
    > > >>>
    > > >>>Subject: Hide your adware from all Adware removers
    > > >>>and Anti-viruses
    > > >>>
    > > >>>
    > > >>>
    > > >>>Hi,
    > > >>> Adware removers are gaining in popularity and
    > > >>>they cause a big
    > > >>>revenue threat to adware based businesses, as we see
    > > >>>our software
    > > >>>installations get desinstalled after a period of
    > > >>>time that is shorter
    > > >>>and shorter, we see our revenues get smaller and
    > > >>>smaller.
    > > >>>
    > > >>> Why would an honest adware based business
    > > >>>lose revenue just because
    > > >>>some adware remover has identifyed it as being
    > > >>>something to remove ?
    > > >>>
    > > >>> We beleive we have the right to hide from
    > > >>>these adware removers as
    > > >>>long as we provide a way for the user to uninstall
    > > >>>and that he agrees
    > > >>>that the software will be uninstalled only with the
    > > >>>provided
    > > >>>uninstaller.
    > > >>>
    > > >>> It is in that spirit that we created the
    > > >>>solution to the problem :
    > > >>>
    > > >>>
    > > >>>AdProtector 1.2
    > > >>>
    > > >>>
    > > >>> We have developed software capable of hiding
    > > >>>your software from all
    > > >>>adware removers and anti-viruses on a Windows
    > > >>>NT/2000/2003/XP machine.
    > > >>>
    > > >>> Basically we have filtered the windows kernel
    > > >>>so that we could mofify
    > > >>>the behavior of the system itself. So now we can
    > > >>>hide anything we want
    > > >>>from windows.
    > > >>>
    > > >>> It can : - Hide Registry Keys
    > > >>> - Hide Files
    > > >>> - Hide Processes
    > > >>>
    > > >>> By hiding these 3 key elements from windows,
    > > >>>your application won't
    > > >>>ever be detected by any adware removers.
    > > >>>
    > > >>> Interesting ?
    > > >>>
    > > >>> For more information or to resquest a Demo :
    > > >>> email :
    > > >>>hexa@randexsoft.com
    > > >>>
    > > >>>Business is moving fast, keep ahead of the
    > > >>>competition!
    > > >
    > > >
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    >
    >
    > --
    > Peace. ~G
    >
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