[Full-Disclosure] What I meant to say was....

From: Steve Kudlak (chromazine_at_sbcglobal.net)
Date: 06/29/04

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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 15:45:36 -0700

    Sometimes when not fully awake I send things to the wrong address...
    oh well whoops....what I meant to say about Mozilla was:

    They do have a good habit of fixing things. I think the idea of
    > celebrating the nth bug is that bugs are inevitable but fixing them
    > makes things better.
    >
    > I don't have a complete "test your browser against exploits"
    > but I have tried several on Firefox and the exploits doesn't work.
    > Since it is all open code with an active and interactive developer
    > community that is trying to convince people that they are the best
    > and to use them they might try harder. Whereas IE gets used because
    > in many places one has to use it. I know this is the case in several
    > libraries and businesses.
    >
    > As I think I mentioned, I will try to float these questions in the Mozilla
    > or Firefox mailing list. I will post any answers I get.. This is after I get
    > my current work halfway in order.
    >
    > Have Fun,
    > Sends Steve

    P.S. Note the only big problem I ran into with Firefox was that
    two of the making tabbed browsing nicely clash badly. They are the
    thing that makes tabs fill more lines instead of getting smaller,
    sorry I forgot the name and "Tabbed Browsing". If you try to install
    them both then Firefox crashes when trying to launch.

    What I do is keep several profiles. I have an experimental profile
    which has things I am doing/testing now, a stable working profile
    and a stripped down minimal what came in the box profile. I found
    Firefox way stripped down for my tastes and spent Memorial Day Weekend
    putting together a version of it that I liked. When I installed the
    last two extensions I wanted then it crashed and it seemed my work
    was for nought. I had to dig through the doumentation and found that
    was quite clear and understandable and found if I renamed a few files
    that I could start it and dump out a profile that would let it launch.
    I submitted a bug report for the "Tabbed Browsing Extensions". I then
    made sure it alwaysask what profile I want when it launches.

    Overall I find Mozilla Firefox less given to allowing nasty things to happen
    than IE is. I have tried a few tests but since I don't have a seperate
    machine to try dangreous things on I am pretty cautious. Anyway this is
    kind of general and long winded on what should be a "details oriented" list,
    but when people are making pretty clueless noises like going "Mozzilla celebrated
    it's 200,000th bug, uh oh." I feel I have to respond. I don't know if I want
    to go back into all this technical security stuff or not.

    Have Fun,
    Sends Steve

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