RE: [Full-Disclosure] Top 15 Reasons Why Admins Use Security Scan ners

From: Starford, Christopher D. (CHRISTOPHER.D.STARFORD_at_saic.com)
Date: 04/28/04

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    To: "'Harlan Carvey'" <keydet89@yahoo.com>
    Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 16:13:23 -0400
    
    

    First an auditor checks for vulnerabilities of course (this is for
    validation not to make that determination based on the auditee's saying or
    reports from third party scanners). Then the auditor will determine the
    extent and security surrounding those vulns and what the auditee is either
    required (policy/procedure) or recommended (best practice) to fix those
    vulnerabilities and stay secure.

    __________________________________________________
    Christopher D. Starford
    SAIC Enterprise Security Sulutions

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Harlan Carvey [mailto:keydet89@yahoo.com]
    > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 3:05 PM
    > To: Starford, Christopher D.
    > Cc: 'full-disclosure@netsys.com'
    > Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] Top 15 Reasons Why Admins Use
    > Security Scan ners
    >
    >
    >
    > And you know something, Chris...that's fine. Really.
    > I just left a position in the private sector w/ a
    > company that was audited over a dozen times a year by
    > various customers. Even their external auditors (ie,
    > *not* customers) were clueless when it comes to IT or
    > security. One audit did include a knowledgeable
    > security professional on staff...but just one.
    >
    > But there's also another way to look at the original
    > comment...security is a process. Running a vulnerability
    > scanner isn't a process...it's a point-in-time check, a
    > snapshot. A good IT security auditor won't focus on the fact
    > that certain systems have vulnerabilities...he or she will
    > focus on *why* they have the vulnerabilities.
    >
    > > I believe many true IT Security Auditors out there
    > > would agree that your wrong on this one.
    > >
    > > > -How will I ever pass my IT Security Audits?
    > > >
    > > > Don't worry about it...most audits don't seem to
    > > have
    > > > an IT background, and even when they do, they
    > > don't
    > > > take the time to understand your business
    > > processes or
    > > > your network infrastructure.
    >
    >

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