Re: [Full-Disclosure] Super Worm
From: Aschwin Wesselius (full-disclosure_at_illuminated.nl)
Date: 04/19/04
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To: sean01@accnet.com.au Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 14:12:49 -0100
Sean Crawford wrote:
>Phil wrote------------->
>
>>Nor their arrogance. I had two people tell me this weekend that they had
>>got a virus from Windows Update. No way would they listen to what I told
>>them. And it was a complete waste of time enumerating the various attack
>>vectors which could lead them to believing that that was what happened.
>>Whatever I told them, they still refused to believe any other explanation
>>than that Microsoft had sent them a virus from the Windows Update site.
>>
>>
>FFS.....I can just hear them now..
>
>I do support for a small company(about 150 end users)and these are the same
>issues I go through daily, don't even try and explain exploits, it leads to
>another whole world of frustration/pain..most people don't even want to
>understand..
>
>I say it all the time to my boss...IT support is a thankless job as the only
>time I/we get a call is when someone's not happy...
>
>On the other hand....without those dimwits I would be out of a job...God
>bless the dill's..
>
>
Yeah, but with the problems and the stupidity of end users, the curve of
complexity gets steeper. Dimwits can be good, because it keeps you awake
and focussed. But too many, gives you headaches and makes you go off
schedules.
True control (to keep your job) is to have control on the dosis of
knowledge about security. Keep them wellinformed, but not into the
sticky details, so you have tasks left for yourself.
Make a good list wich people can check for themselves. A knowledge base
maybe with good understandable descriptions of threats and info on new
things wich might hit them. If they did not obey the list with checks
they can be hold for ignorant, unhelpful, dumb, or any names you can
think off (still stay polite). Prioritize those people by filtering who
is helpful and sticks with the rules, and people who are just simply
ignorant and not willing to learn from what you tell them. In the end
it is their own fault and they have to feel how it is to not being
helped that quick.
If people are refusing to listen, or just ignore your job as what it
means (to prevent and solve problems) you don't have to help them, since
in their view you don't exist, or are not important to them. Turn it
around and hold them for not being important either, since it works both
ways. You have to do it together and you are not Cinderella.
Kind regards,
Aschwin Wesselius
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