RE: [Full-Disclosure] Flawed arguments (Was all that other crap about PFW day)
From: Erik van Straten (emvs.fd.3FB4D11C_at_cpo.tn.tudelft.nl)
To: "Schmehl, Paul L" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 17:39:20 +0100
In , On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 09:33:29 -0600 Paul Schmehl wrote:
> The previous poster complains that PFWs fool people into thinking
> that they are more secure. Several other posters have cited the
> fact that most *nixes now come with "the firewall enabled", which
> obviously means they think that makes *nix more secure. So, they
> believe, simply by having iptables (or whatever) enabled, they are
> more secure.
You started a new subject - clearly a rant
*I*  complained that PFW's fool people into thinking that they are
more secure - an idea you reject *AND* support in the same post 
clearly shown in 
You quoted only *MY* text - now you're talking "several other posters"
who are you ranting anyway
In your explanation  you're leaving out one of both relevant
paragraphs from  and provide a stupid excuse
I pity you - Get Some Sleep
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