Re: [Full-Disclosure] Re: Internet Explorer URL parsing vulnerability

From: Ricardo Moura (ricardo_at_microhardbr.com.br)
Date: 12/12/03

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    Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:36:12 -0200
    
    

    On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:05:47 +0059
    Jedi/Sector One <j@pureftpd.org> wrote:

    > On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 09:23:40AM +0100, Feher Tamas wrote:
    > > Unless the bug has already been exploited by malicious people, it was
    > > a highly irresponsible act to disclose it to the public, without giving
    > > Microsoft a reasonable timeframe to produce a fix.
    >
    > People know that new critical flaws are discovered in Internet Explorer
    > every week, but keep using this product.
    >
    > Who is to blame here?
    >
    > > It may even qualify as a crime!
    >
    > In this case, Microsoft is the actual criminal.
    >
    > To bring back the traditionnal car-vs-software parallel... Imagine that
    > Ford is selling cars that are known to have serious defects. Every week a new
    > serial defect is found (and even not by the manufacturer but by an
    > individual). And because of these defects, thousands of people are already
    > dead. Now, the defect-of-the-week is that when you say "booh!" to a Ford car,
    > it explodes 10 minutes later.
    >
    > Now when a car explodes because of that flaw, who is to blame?
    >
    > - People who keep buying those cars while knowing they are playing the russian
    > roulette? Obviously.
    >
    > - Ford that still keeps selling these cars (fixing some reported flaws,
    > ignoring some others, not really carefully testing anything themselves
    > before products hit the market) ? Obviously.
    >
    > - A kiddy who notices the "booh!" bug by mistake and tells his friends (so
    > that the problem is known to the public instead of being silent, waiting for
    > a vendor fix and imagining that because the fix is there, everyone in the
    > planet will immediately apply it)? Obviously not.
    >
    > Past the marketing "Microsoft now focuses on security" craptalk, the
    > current situation regarding Internet Explorer is still the same for years.
    > Use it without Qwik-fix, an antivirus, a firewall and strong reflexion
    > before clicking anywhere and you are still vulnerable to trivial flaws. So
    > instead of blaming whoever found the IE bugs of the week, just switch to
    > other browsers.

    well said :-]

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