Re: [Full-Disclosure] automated vulnerability testing

From: Darren Reed (avalon_at_caligula.anu.edu.au)
Date: 11/30/03

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    To: Sung.Choe@hickam.af.mil (Choe.Sung Cont. PACAF CSS/SCHP)
    Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 06:48:02 +1100 (Australia/ACT)
    
    

    In some mail from Choe.Sung Cont. PACAF CSS/SCHP, sie said:
    >
    > Bill Royds wrote:
    > > If you are truly interested in security, you won't use C as the
    > programming
    > > language.
    > You must be shitting me.. C does have its inherent flaws but that doesn't
    > mean that there cannot be a secure application written in C. This statement
    > represents FUD at its highest level.

    In a sense, he is right. The effort you need to go to with C in order
    to code "securely" is obscene. Programming should evolve to a point
    where programmers don't need to worry about crap like that unless they're
    writing bootstrap code for an OS loader (or similar). Sooner or later,
    C needs to become obsolete.

    That aside, I can program more easily and securely in Java than I can
    with C, any time. The "more securely" comes from it being easier to
    understand by others as much as anything else.

    Darren

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