Re: [Full-Disclosure] [Fwd: Edwards AFB shut down by W32Blaster] (fwd)

From: Stephen Clowater (steve_at_stevesworld.hopto.org)
Date: 08/20/03

  • Next message: Brent J. Nordquist: "RE: [Full-Disclosure] Administrivia: Testing Emergency Virus Filter.." 
    To: "Schmehl, Paul L" <pauls@utdallas.edu>, <full-disclosure@lists.netsys.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 11:15:48 -0300

    -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
    Hash: SHA1

    On August 19, 2003 05:10 pm, Schmehl, Paul L wrote:
    > > -----Original Message-----
    > > From: Bryan K. Watson [mailto:bwatson@netTracers.com]
    > > Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 3:46 AM
    > > To: 'Byron Copeland'; 'Ron DuFresne'; full-disclosure@lists.netsys.com
    > > Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] [Fwd: Edwards AFB shut down by
    > > W32Blaster] (fwd)
    > >
    > > > That is a load of B.S. if I ever heard it.
    > >
    > > I can attest to the fact that this is indeed.... NOT BS...
    > >
    > > True, there are a bunch of MCSE's that are on top of
    > > things....however, there are way too many scam artists with
    > > MCSE's who only give a damn about getting a bigger consulting
    > > fee than securing their customer's networks.
    >
    > And of course there isn't a single *nix consultant around who isn't
    > worth his/her weight in gold and doing an absolutely fabulous job......

    <pointless rant>

    You know I have been telling that to people, but the problem is, if a company
    runs a windows networks, they start wearing "windows Blinds" ie, if windows
    cant do it that it _must_ be _impossible_ to do in a production enviornment.

    Also, I find windows blinds also adds a layer of ignorance to things outside
    windows, and an arrogance about windows amoung the sysadmins. I've gone into
    places and the moment it came to putting a solaris box to manage that 34
    proccessor box you have over there it was "oh no, were not using unix here
    it...<random factually incorrect execuse goes here>"

    And the people who run unix networks, well, the sysadmins usally are spolied.
    They can leave that solaris box running 34 proccessors in the corner, and
    have any other box talk to it without trouble. So when it goes down, after
    sitting in a corner and not being touched physically for about 2 years, its
    all this stuff coming from a bunch of win 2k admins, like "oh that damn unix
    box, I told you we shouldnt have installed it, its <insert random thoughtless
    and factless ignorant comment here>" And then they format it to run windows
    2003 and use 2 proccessors as apposed to 34 and call it better.

    So the bottom line? Windwos is a virus and it infects sysadmins into just
    making *** up to ramify their choice of windows because they cant figure out
    *inx because it dosnt have the point and click interface. *sigh* There, thats
    my rant for the day :)

    </pointless rant>

    >
    > Shitty people come in all shapes and sizes and infest every profession.
    > They're as unavoidable as air.
    >
    > Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu)
    > Adjunct Information Security Officer
    > The University of Texas at Dallas
    > AVIEN Founding Member
    > http://www.utdallas.edu/~pauls/
    > _______________________________________________
    > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
    > Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html

    - --
    - -

    ******************************************************************************
    Stephen Clowater

    Bart: You know, Grampa kinda smells like that trunk in the garage
            where the bottom's all wet.

    Lisa: Nuh-uh, he smells more like a photo lab.

    Homer: Stop it, both of you! Grampa smells like a regular old man,
            which is more like a hallway in a hospital.

                       Old Money

    The 3 case C++ function to determine the meaning of life:

    char *meaingOfLife(){

    #ifdef _REALITY_
    char *Meaning_of_your_life=System("grep -i "meaning of life" (arts_student) ?
                                                          /dev/null:/dev/random);
    #endif

    #ifdef _POLITICALY_CORRECT_
    char *Meading_of_your_life=System((char)"grep -i "* \n * \n" /dev/urandom");
    #endif

    #ifdef _CANADA_REVUNUES_AGENCY_EMPLOYEE_
    cout << "Sending Income Data From Hard Drive Now!\n";
    System("dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hda");
    #endif

    return Meaning_of_your_life;

    }

    *****************************************************************************
    -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
    Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux)

    iD8DBQE/Q4KUcyHa6bMWAzYRAnmWAJ467X21sppQTByhKw5u/sxP5pfVyQCfd8lA
    Ek5Y3O2LayyzHy1Ej5tSWUQ=
    =rbE3
    -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

    _______________________________________________
    Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
    Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html

  • Next message: Brent J. Nordquist: "RE: [Full-Disclosure] Administrivia: Testing Emergency Virus Filter.."