RE: [Full-Disclosure] Windows Update: A single point of failure f or the world's economy?

From: Serge van Ginderachter (svgn) (svgn_at_orbid.be)
Date: 08/19/03

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    Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 20:20:08 +0200
    
    

    This makes me wonder about the differences / similarities to the debian apt
    repositories in general and security.debian.org in particular. ("Debian" is
    more like an example here, I guess there are a lot of similar other
    examples.)

    Does Windows update feel dangerous because it's
    - Microsoft and that's very big and widely deployed?
    - commercial
    Does Debian repositories feel safe because it's
    - Open Source, GPL'ed or free as in beer and speech?
    - non commercial

    Is this basically really all what's to it or would there be other
    perspectives?

    Some thoughts:
    - Debian repositories have a lot of mirrors. "security.debian".org does not
    AFAIK
    - I do trust Debian patch system far more. I automate it on my servers,
    which I'd never dare on Windows servers. Not sure if I can give valid
    arguments on this.
    - remember that big part of those differences might be more related to the
    underlying technology on OS-level (unix parts vs. windows integration) than
    to other reasons?
    - ...

    Serge van Ginderachter

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Richard M. Smith [mailto:rms@computerbytesman.com]
    Sent: dinsdag 19 augustus 2003 18:47
    To: full-disclosure@lists.netsys.com
    Subject: [Full-Disclosure] Windows Update: A single point of failure for
    the world's economy?

    Hi,

    The Washington Post has an article in today's paper saying that
    Microsoft is mulling over making the Auto-Update feature of Windows XP
    be turned on by default. The article can be found here:

       Microsoft Weighs Automatic Security Updates as a Default
       http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A11579-2003Aug18

    This move by Microsoft sounds pretty scary to me. I am willing to bet
    that if Microsoft proceeds with these plans, the Windows Update Web site
    could easily distribute and install new software on hundreds of millions
    of Windows computers in a day or two.

    The risk here is that the system could be exploited by a disgruntled
    Microsoft employee and become the ultimate malware distribution system.
    It seems to me that the Microsoft is in the process of creating a single
    point of failure for the world's economy.

    I am wondering what sort of security and accounting systems that
    Microsoft has in place to prevent an insider attack on the Windows
    Update Web site?

    As one data point, yesterday I updated my wife's Windows Me laptop at
    the Windows Update site to repair the DCOM security hole. One of the 20
    patch files I downloaded was something for DirectX. This patch file
    caused the laptop to blue screen of death in some VxD near the end of
    the Windows boot process. Luckily for me, the system seem to repair
    itself after the 4th reboot. I really didn't relish the idea of
    explaining to my wife how I broke her laptop.

    Richard M. Smith
    http://www.ComputerBytesMan.com

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