RE: [Full-Disclosure] east coast powergrid / SCADA [OT?]

From: Andre Ludwig (ALudwig_at_Calfingroup.com)
Date: 08/16/03

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    To: "'simon@snosoft.com'" <simon@snosoft.com>, RMcElroy@mbe.com
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 17:36:06 -0700

    I just confirmed that a major utility in Northern CA uses SCADA systems
    based off of NT4. And yes the systems in question do use RPC as a means of
    communication, as well as frame relays, modems and private trunks.

    Andre Ludwig, CISSP

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    From: -SIMON- [mailto:simon@snosoft.com]
    Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 4:32 PM
    To: RMcElroy@mbe.com
    Cc: scheidell@secnap.net; tetsujin@comcast.net;
    full-disclosure@lists.netsys.com
    Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] east coast powergrid / SCADA [OT?]

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    What OS would you say that they use?

    RMcElroy@mbe.com wrote:

    >At least on the west coast they do not, I think the requirements of the
    >systems are way out of Microsoft's range. Lot's and Lot's of Unix
    >
    >-----Original Message-----
    >From: Michael Scheidell [mailto:scheidell@secnap.net]
    >Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 11:36 AM
    >To: tetsujin
    >Cc: full-disclosure@lists.netsys.com
    >Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] east coast powergrid / SCADA [OT?]
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    >>Paller said it is "highly unlikely" that the process control computers
    >>
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    >>behind critical infrastructure like power in the United States would
    >>run on the Windows operating system.
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    >
    >well, ONTARIO HYDRO does seem to have SOME windoes boxes.. at least here
    >is one that appears to have been infected with slammer:
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    >http://www.hackertrap.net/LID.pl?IID=39335068
    >
    >(Aug 9th through the 12th?)
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