RE: [Full-Disclosure] [OFFTOPIC] Zone Alarm

From: Schmehl, Paul L (pauls_at_utdallas.edu)
Date: 06/05/03

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    To: <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu>
    Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 16:37:10 -0500
    

    Off course you're right. My point, which I obviously made ineptly, is
    that *everything* must be patched at some point, so the idea that you
    install a DSL router and just forget about it was what I was trying to
    get at. There *is* no panacea for security. It's an ongoing,
    never-ending process of checking and rechecking and rechecking again to
    make sure that there aren't any known holes in your defenses.

    Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu)
    Adjunct Information Security Officer
    The University of Texas at Dallas
    AVIEN Founding Member
    http://www.utdallas.edu/~pauls/

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu [mailto:Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu]
    Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 3:09 PM
    To: Schmehl, Paul L
    Cc: full-disclosure@lists.netsys.com
    Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] [OFFTOPIC] Zone Alarm

    On Thu, 05 Jun 2003 10:17:57 CDT, "Schmehl, Paul L" <pauls@utdallas.edu>
    said:
    > I wasn't going to respond to that because it was so patently obvious,
    > but since you did, I'll append this note - I have flashed my DSL
    > router three times since I bought it. I've had it for about a year.
    > (It's not a LinkSys or a NetGear router. It's an SMC Barricade.)
    >
    > In case anyone hasn't noticed, you have to patch some systems almost
    > daily - RedHat, for example, Windows obviously, etc., etc.

    On the flip side, let's compare apples to apples, shall we? Unless your
    DSL Router also has Gnome and OpenOffice and 693 other .rpms installed,
    the RedHat is getting patched more because there's more stuff.

    How about comparing how often you have to update your DSL router with
    how often you have to update the corresponding code on a RedHat box
    (say, the networking parts of the kernel, iptables/iproute, maybe
    iputils and parts of initscripts)?

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