Re: [Full-Disclosure] RE: power, corruption and lies

From: yossarian (yossarian_at_planet.nl)
Date: 04/28/03

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    To: jasonc@science.org, Steve Wray <steve.wray@paradise.net.nz>, full-disclosure@netsys.com
    Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 10:49:43 +0200
    

    > > This has effectively doomed (almost) the entire IT industry
    > > to corruption. Yes, all the way from software to hardware,
    > > from sales to support, the IT industry is corrupt.
    >
    > You've got a keen insight into the IT industry, Steve.
    >
    > You CAN get paid for refusing to be involved in the massive fraud that the
    IT
    > business became in the 1990's... You simply have to know what type of work
    to
    > get involved in. Maybe the market for IT products and services will
    undergo a
    > real shakeout of its entrenched criminal element over the next couple of
    years
    > and honesty can gain a bit of a foothold.

    > My sense is that the Internet bubble
    > in the stock markets actually removed a number of the perpetuators of the
    > worst offenses by making them so wealthy that they simply retired from the
    > business.

    That is what i hoped at the time of the tech-slump in the early 90-s. But
    alas, when the biz took off again in '97/8, these very same people came
    back, and since they had the money and the 'experience', they were not only
    allowed back in, but put in charge by VC's and banks. I've seen the people
    at the cause of the '91 slump hailed as guru's and saviours in '98/99.

    The corruption is at more levels than the top, i think since us propheads
    are masochistic by nature.And the cowboys have set an example - if someone
    wises up, he will just do what the role-models did: get rich fast, buy a
    black porsche, sell the lousy company to a group of investors that don't
    care anyway, and don't know a thing.

    Sadder and wiser now, my expectation is that they'll all be back, to mess
    things up again, somewhere in '06. And if the rythm stays, again in '15 and
    '24. Maybe i'll have my black porsche in '07....

    yossarian

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