Re: [Full-Disclosure] RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding

From: yossarian (yossarian@planet.nl)
Date: 04/20/03

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    From: yossarian <yossarian@planet.nl>
To: Darren Reed <avalon@caligula.anu.edu.au>
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 02:23:15 +0200

    > In some mail from Paul Schmehl, sie said:
    > >
    > > But that's his privilege. If he chooses to express his thoughts in that
    > > way, he has every right to do so. That's precisely what freedom is.
    >
    > But a person in so doing must be prepared to respect the rights and
    > well being of others or in infringing upon them, be prepared to pay
    > duely for it if suffering is endured by others and so we have laws
    > that define libel, defamation, official secrecy acts, etc, that might
    > seem to be at odds with "freedom of speech" but in essence, aim to
    > uphold what it is there for in the first place - to make life better
    > and easier for all.

    Is "them" including corporate interests if they conflict with personal
    freedom? Probably, since the companies = the shareholders = people.....
    Are you including DMCA / Patriot Act / etc.? Is this including being
    prepared for being put in the slammer since someone in uniform dislikes what
    you put on your T-shirt? Funny how judicial people get to work around the
    principle of freedom of speech. How many here went to law school? Speech is
    not necessarily verbal.

    BTW, whose wellbeing is suffering by Theo's statement? If you are that
    sensitive, forget the Internet and travel abroad. This warmongering on every
    internet platform is making the net a more dangerous place, since most
    people have no power in real life, but find the idea of hacktivism
    appealing - it feels like power. Anti-US feelings are fueled by these
    things - whether on a security, a music, or whatever type of forum, it is
    americans rambling off topic.

    Can't we just get this over with, or will we have to wait till george is
    re-elected?

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