Re: [Full-Disclosure] The worm author finally revealed!

From: David Howe (DaveHowe@cmn.sharp-uk.co.uk)
Date: 02/03/03

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    From: "David Howe" <DaveHowe@cmn.sharp-uk.co.uk>
    To: "Email List: Full Disclosure" <full-disclosure@lists.netsys.com>
    Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 12:14:40 -0000
    

    at Friday, January 31, 2003 7:52 PM, madsaxon <madsaxon@direcway.com>
    was seen to say:
    > That happens where I work, too. Every new patch breaks something
    > else, and since a fair amount of our software is custom-designed, we
    > have to get the vendors to rush out and figure out how to patch their
    > stuff to be compatible with the new patch. That costs beaucoup
    > bucks, and meanwhile our clients are screaming because their
    > application is down. The next time a patch comes out, management is
    > very reluctant to allow us to install it, so we have to do a
    > cost-benefit analysis on which would be the greater evil: leaving the
    > vulnerability unpatched or pissing off our clients with yet another
    > period of downtime. If we don't patch, we get called "irresponsible"
    > and "lazy."
    Certainly true. then you have the wonderful microsoft habit of a later
    patch overwriting (and therefore silently backing out) an earlier
    patch's files, and the fact that some sites *legally can't* install the
    more recent service packs/patches as microsofts new licencing agreement
    conflicts with a legal duty of privacy for the data processed on that
    machine.

    > I personally argued strongly against Microsoft servers in the first
    > place, but of course that was pooh-poohed as just sour grapes from an
    > old Unix fossil.
    Unfortunately, its a cascade - new features of IE require windows
    servers, which require users to be using IE.....

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