Re: [Full-Disclosure] CERT, Full Disclosure, and Security By Obscurity

From: Georgi Guninski (guninski@guninski.com)
Date: 01/30/03

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    From: Georgi Guninski <guninski@guninski.com>
    To: Ben Laurie <ben@algroup.co.uk>
    Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 00:21:05 +0200
    

    Ben Laurie wrote:
    > Len Rose wrote:
    >
    >> With the recent evidence that CERT informed it's paying members about
    >> the Sapphire SQL worm before the rest of the world should now indicate
    >> that they too are not a useful resource for timely and open security
    >> information.
    >
    >
    > This is news why? CERT told me that is what they wanted to do when I
    > was, errm, in dispute with them over timing of the release of the
    > OpenSSL holes last year. I believe I mentioned it at the time.
    >
    > That's one reason I won't pre-notify CERT (or, indeed, anyone else
    > [other than the vendor]) anymore.
    >

    According to:
    http://www.businessweek.com/technology/cnet/stories/982663.htm
    ".....But Litchfield said he felt "a betrayal of trust" because CERT had "leaked
    (the information) to certain organizations and government departments" before
    passing it on to IT workers...."
    There was more interesting article on eweek yesterday.

    Recently when I notified some vendors about a vulnerability, I wrote something
    like a license agreement that the info should not be disclosed to m$, cert,
    mitre, sf and others.

    Georgi

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