Re: RE : [Full-Disclosure] [Secure Network Operations, Inc.] Full Disclosure != Exploit Release

From: Day Jay (d4yj4y@yahoo.com)
Date: 01/29/03

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    From: Day Jay <d4yj4y@yahoo.com>
    To: KF <dotslash@snosoft.com>
    Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 19:51:52 -0800 (PST)
    

    ok,

    do you honestly think that I didn't have a copy of
    that already? Like I don't know how to search google?
    Hmmmm, ok, yeah, I'm so lame I need to send you an
    e-mail to get an exploit for something that was
    released like months ago. I think you may be
    lost...hmmm, you may be a victim of social
    engineering, I recommend checking your machine for
    viruses/worms/trojans.

    Anyway, let it be known that you stopped releasing
    exploits because of the darkside looming over your
    shoulders. Just admit it.

    By they way, in terms of talent-> EEYE blows Snosoft
    out of the water with a blink of an eeye.

    Dude, just close SNOW and become an independant
    consultant. Don't act like some big security company,
    like some big player in the game.

    ->To: KF <dotslash@snosoft.com>

    ->looking for the freebsd exploit on the syskey...
    ->Also, checking to see if any new exploits were
    posted
    ->on the site....

    kinda ironic I think...

    > But at least, Snosoft can now call themselves
    > Blackhats. Wohoo, another blackhat added to the
    list.
    > PHC up, hoes down.

    Better scratch that out... hats do not fit very well
    on my afro.

    --- KF <dotslash@snosoft.com> wrote:
    > Day Jay wrote:
    > > First of all,
    > >
    > > In my humble opinion: SNOSOFT hasn't offered
    > anything
    > > useful in terms of full disclosure. Where are the
    > > advisories?
    >
    > I will be the first to admidt I have not been the
    > best at organising a
    > proper advisory repository but there are plenty of
    > them out there...
    >
    > I was one of those people that assumed bugtraq would
    > not "change" and
    > that when it came time for me to place all my work
    > in a nice advisory
    > database I could go there an retrieve my
    > information.... because of that
    > I did not take the time to make pretty ISS and eEye
    > style
    > advisories...and you can not find them on our page
    > but they were made
    > available.... SRT2002 should work just fine in any
    > search engine.
    >
    > Heres a few randomly...
    >
    >
    http://cert.uni-stuttgart.de/archive/bugtraq/2002/06/msg00032.html
    >
    http://www.opennet.ru/base/sco/988181601_2005.txt.html
    >
    http://www.opennet.ru/base/sco/988181601_1997.txt.html
    >
    http://www.opennet.ru/base/sco/988181601_1979.txt.html
    >
    > > I know alot of people are going to love the fact
    > that
    > > Snosoft stopped trying to release exploits, but I
    > know
    > > some script kids that are going to be devastated
    > about
    > > this.
    >
    > You mean like you and the rest of your buddies? Was
    > it not you that
    > mailed me a few days ago because we took the httpd
    > offline and you could
    > not get a copy of iosmash.c. You seemed to value our
    > resources at that
    > point in time...
    >
    > ->Return-Path: <d4yj4y@yahoo.com>
    > ->Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 11:36:51 -0800 (PST)
    > ->From: Day Jay <d4yj4y@yahoo.com>
    > ->Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Re: Gary Coleman
    > Works for
    > ->Globalintersec!
    > ->To: KF <dotslash@snosoft.com>
    >
    > ->looking for the freebsd exploit on the syskey...
    > ->Also, checking to see if any new exploits were
    > posted
    > ->on the site....
    >
    > kinda ironic I think...
    >
    > > But at least, Snosoft can now call themselves
    > > Blackhats. Wohoo, another blackhat added to the
    > list.
    > > PHC up, hoes down.
    >
    > Better scratch that out... hats do not fit very well
    > on my afro.
    >
    > -KF
    >
    >
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